No Soul Life in the Womb + Prolife Blasphemy

No Soul Life in Womb, Bible Cites, and why

This is a very sensitive topic to almost everyone. Frankly, I abhor confrontation; so I didn't want to put anything about abortion in my webpages, because to me the only issue is knowing God. However, I finally realized that, just as my pastor taught for decades, to claim "abortion is murder", legally speaking, blasphemes God: though of course no one means to be blasphemous. Worse, in a way, is the resultant effect: truths about God Himself are missed, when false doctrine about abortion clouds thinking. So, reluctantly, I realized I'd better write about it. Please understand this up front: I am adopted, so obviously I would never go crusading in the streets on BEHALF of abortion. In fact, crusading itself is always condemned, in the Bible. So this webpage is not -- repeat, not -- intended to convince you of anything at all. Rather, to just disclose results of the research I ended up doing. Thus I have the freedom to be frank, and you have the freedom to reject or accept whatever you choose for your reasons. Ahhh.

Here's a too-brief categorization of some of the ways Bible communicates that life begins at birth. It's really about when life begins, not about illicit sex. It's really about What God Thinks, How He Is, not even about people. For, you learn things about God by how He does things, interacts. That's the real value of this webpage, especially the white table on (the fabulous) Ps139, below.


So for now, here goes:

When 'political games' are played with something in/about Bible, you can always tell. Just as the Lord got seven kangaroo trials which foolishly broke every tenet of Roman and Jewish law for the sake of politics, so it goes with Bible translation and teaching. Hostility to truth always makes for a foolish testimony, so the 'witness' always has egg on his face. Of course, debunkers aren't the only ones who have an 'agenda'. Thus it should be no surprise that the above bullets on sexual innuendo and syntactical categories are the most revealing and important, BUT! are plagued by bad scholarship; and nearly always, bad translation. It's really hard to find lexicons which don't euphemize. You almost have to look outside Bible lexicons to the ones for Greek literature. The translators appear to be constrained to euphemize.

Nowhere are the political machinations more patent than with the selective MIStranslation of Bible Hebrew and Greek prepositions min (Heb) and ek (Greek). Though for min and ek the correct meaning, BEYOND, FROM OUTSIDE, is stressed in seminary texts; and even though there is extensive etymology on min (i.e., even in Badillo's History of Hebrew Language, purchasable from Amazon), translators are selective about when they correctly translate these prepositions. WHY, well.. you decide. You can search them in some software, and compare how and in what cases BEYOND, OUTSIDE, SEPARATED FROM, AWAY FROM, is correctly used (the prepositions ONLY have that meaning in the partitive, particularly "min").

So what do we do? We do our own homework: so that privately before the Lord we ourselves have a clear conscience. You should not 'buy' what 'I' say just because 'I' say it. You have to do your homework; I have to do mine. You have your own reporting before the Lord; this, is mine. Granted, we obviously can't afford not to study the significance of these bulleted verse categories. Granted, it would be disrespectful to reverse a belief absent valid reason. However, each one, before the Lord, determines for himself how he should do that homework. Again, what follows is a brief, on mine. Ideas you can use, if you are so inclined.

One of the first rules of hermeneutics is that you compare Scripture with Scripture. You never interpret a verse in isolation. Moreover, every truth will have boundaries, as illustrated in the famous Proverbs passages about there being a time to be born, and a time to die (time being the operative boundary). So if you read a verse in isolation, you won't know its parameters. Worse, if you read a verse in translation, some key nuance in the original languages which entirely changes the meaning, goes unnoticed.

We all know that we all differ in our interpretations because, essentially, we are all unique, so we all read Scripture differently. How right or wrong, well.. no one's perfect. No one's wholly wrong, either. But only God Is Perfect, so only with continual breathing of 1Jn1:9 as needed, plus diligent contextual study of His Word, do you get closer to His Truth. That is the task of the believer. Believer gets a pastor, and the latter ideally specializes in Word study. But, what if the pastor is too busy? What if the believer didn't hear the pastor correctly? What if the pastor, being only human, is 'off' on a particular topic, for now? So, we too are not free from the liability of testing: "judge for yourselves" verses in NIV, and Elihu's comment at the beginning of his speech to Job, "the ear tests truth". Ooops.


WHY No Soul Life in Womb?


Frankly, what hit me the hardest during all the verses' research is God's Adamancy that ONLY HE CREATES LIFE, and He didn't want ANY connection with human procreation, due to the Fall. (That topic takes up a large part of LordvSatan2.htm's "In the beginning..Man" section, which can't be recounted here.) No auto-pilot 'distance', no competition, no 'help' from anyone/anything else. He uses adamant POSSESSIVE language on this topic, in the OT; focus is related to GOD ALONE IS HOLY, ONLY WHAT GOD DOES IS GOOD: remove your shoes, Moses, no man-made altars, only God 'calls' (makes) a prophet human (common OT refrain -- Paul uses it in Galatians, too). NT language on birth/death seems more clinically-focused, stressing actuality versus planned/ intended/ conceived, because the larger policy statement is that Love, Infinity is not 'complete' without taipeino, "going low" (verb is in Phili2:7, explains how to interpret the always-mistranslated "kenoo").

There seems to be a deeper message, when you add all the hundreds of passages together. Here's what I get from it: 'I only I create Life of ANY kind [so, no evolution, either], for apart from Me, there IS nothing.' Of course, some of you will recognize that the first clause is the OT (phrased variantly in Bible); the second clause, is a play on the famous I-am-the-Vine verse in NT. Those two, frankly, seem to be where God is 'coming from' in His Adamancy, expressed here in the language of Sovereign.


God's Terms: I CALL ALL THE SHOTS; DON'T ABORT MY WORD!


So, it's not so surprising that, even in the few verses which actually talk about conception, God takes the 'credit' away from the procreative act He Himself authors viz., when David exults about being knitted together by God, NOT his mother, and how he had NO life in the womb, Ps139:13-17, esp. v.16. David's point is that God knew David BEFORE he was alive; that's why v.16 is climactic, how David was written in the Book BEFORE he was even alive, while ONLY a fetus, merely a POTENTIAL human being; that God would go to so much trouble. What a gorgeous passage this is.

Here's why. It's a classical a fortiori faith celebration: if God would Personally go to so much trouble just to get David to be BORN, how much more is He willing to do, now that David is a HUMAN BEING? That's why there are those poetic words for the developing BODY PARTS. It's like the sparrows parable in Gospels. If God is so loving for a nothing, how much more, for a HUMAN BEING? See, if you don't recognize David's calling his fetal "substance" a NOTHING, you don't get the tremendous statement-of-God's-Faithfulness out of the passage. He's just praising His Creator, Who is GOD, no one else. It's a comparison, an awesome before-and-after statement of how very much God loves us.

David's praising God; but his praise is instead being used as political weapon, in 'famous' pulpits today. (That's a type of treason against God, and God punishes it severely. We can't afford this kind of punishment, k? We are all one in Christ, so if pain happens to you, it's therefore happening to me; and vice versa. So punishment on one is punishment on all!) For, I 'just happened' (yeah, right, no accidents in the Christian's life) to hear someone on 'Christian' TV quote this passage in the KJV to justify urging an anti-abortion crusade, even going so far as to claim (and how the heck can he know), that there are more abortions than all the deaths of men on battlefields and holocausts in history! That's an abuse of the pulpit, at very least. Pastors are supposed to Teach The Word, not politically crusade. Rev17 harlot.

    Be against abortion if your conscience dictates, but please: Do your homework, so you won't someday prove a fool before millions on television, like this famous guy just did. We need pastors who research before they quote; sadly, when a pastor gets famous, he has no time to check out what he says before going onstage. Of course, if he's not famous, he's constrained to go along with his crowd of fellow pastors, so might not teach properly. Might not, frankly, even know. We're all human: pastors are under more attack by Satan&Co., so need our most fervent prayer. Because, prayer is a Vote For Truth To Be Taught, in cases like this. Your votes are critical. ["Thinking Out Loud" webseries, accessible from the Home page, explores Our Vast Importance In Christ Which Father Purposed For Us To Benefit Himself And Christ. Read Ephesians a few dozen times in a quiet place, if you want to see better the Bible's statement on this fact.]

    So don't get mad about bad teaching -- pray instead. Use 1Jn1:9, ask Father in Son's name to help those stuck in some kind of bad teaching find the Biblical Justification In Scripture to get out of that rut. "Help" is the operative word, since God never coerces volition. (Obviously only the Holy Spirit causes understanding of Scripture, so if 1Jn1:9 is not used, the person won't understand Scripture, no matter how hard he tries.)

So, as part of our due diligence, let's do a little homework on this passage. What follows is an earlier explanation of the verses. The latest explanation is still being recorded on video for Youtube: click here to go to the start of it.

This is one of the frankest passages about how no life is in the womb, used in order to show a bigger praise of God. For, if David were human and in the womb, this entire passage would ring hollow. Let's go over this passage so you can see why.

You probably can only work with a translation. Translations of this passage are incredibly bad, so the verses 13-16 make no sense as a result, nor do the conclusions. But, let's try to work with the translation you have. Use 1Jn1:9 and your brain and read v.13, so you are in the Spirit when you read it.

Oh: for verse 13 you need to know that the LXX in Greek DOESN'T say "in" the womb, but OUT FROM the womb, which is normal. In the Masoretic text, usually the same OUT FROM, OUTSIDE, SEPARATED FROM the womb phrase is used, "mi beten" (me-BET-en). In good English, we'd translate that phrase "from birth". But here in 139:13, "be beten" (buh-BET-en) is used. Phrase does mean "inside the womb", But first note Who is the Creator. Since God is the Subject, now think: David can't be saying the womb is the subject, at the same time. So his mother is NOT his creator.

The fact that God, not the womb, is the Subject; the fact that God not the womb is being called CREATOR, is your first clue that David is saying the OPPOSITE of human life IN the womb. This is also, when you look at similar passages, a recounting of the mechanics of Adam's original creation. David's point is that God personally MAKES a human, human. There's no automatic process which 'contributes'. So, corollary for our day, no evolutionary, auto-pilot process is used at all, in the making of man. Only GOD creates man.

  1. Note v.13 is in two separate clauses. This is Hebrew style poetic discourse. It uses couplets, with (generally) the more-important (or main) theme First.

  2. First clause is SEPARATE from the second, and is not saying that the first is IN the second. That's why they are separate clauses. Note God is SUBJECT in both clauses. GOD is doing something, not the womb. If the womb were in fact producing life, then IT not God would be the Subject. God doesn't lie. God doesn't steal 'credit'. So something unusual is being said, here.

  3. Let's look now at the first clause in verse 13. Hebrew verb qanah is mistranslated as "formed" or "created". Instead, use the word "ACQUIRED" or (better), "DECREED", or even "ORDERED", in the sense of ordering something to buy. "POSSESSED" is okay, too, but the ACT OF PURCHASE is really the focus of the verb's action, not its result of ownership. Greek LXX confirms this meaning, rather than 'create' because the Greek word is ktaomai, meaning to acquire or purchase (ktizw means 'create', so the LXX translators knew better than modern scholars -- pity the latter don't compare both the Hebrew and LXX before going off and using a meaning which qanah in Bible never once connotes). [Of the so-called 6 uses of qanah to mean 'create' according to TWOT, not even one is on the topic of creating, but on producing and purchasing and especially, REDEEMING: Ps74:2, Gen14:19,22 Deut 32:6,13. The other two cited were Gen4:1, which is clearly also not 'create', and our passage here, Ps139:13. So it's arbitrary to say Ps139:13's qanah means 'create', the other verses having also been eliminated from that claim -- especially, since the Greek LXX didn't use ktizw. Funny how God anticipated this political-correctness problem, by facilitating the LXX, which the Lord and those contemporary to Him, used...]

    That precision matters, for David is stressing GOD'S WILL by his choice of words. Actually, he's playing on the birth of Cain (acquirer, possessor, gainer), the first person born of a woman, and the first murderer: see Heb and Greek of Gen4:1. For, David is awestruck that God would 'purchase' his existence, knowing in advance that he, like Cain, would be a murderer (of Uriah).

      For, other words he could have used, focus on the action of creating. Hebrew words for the actual creating of a thing are asah (to create something out of other materials); banah (lit., to build something from something, used of the woman being 'built" (heh) from Adam's rib); bara (i.e., Gen1:1, to create something out of nothing); yatser (for creating one inanimate thing out of another inanimate thing, like Adam's body, in Gen2:7). Greek, ktizw (all or any of those Hebrew meanings), poiew (lit. to do, but used much like English uses "to do"), etc.

      Really, to translate qanah as an ordering-to-buy seems a more apt translation. For, qanah is in the qal perfect (completed reality, 'a done deal'), an is an ACQUISITION verb, buying something else which already exists, or DECREEING its existence, in the case of God. In the LXX (Greek OT, which the Lord and Scripture writers used), this Psalm verse is numbered 138:13, and its translation of qanah is rendered ktaomai, which has the same acquisition meaning. Look up those words. As you think them over, you'll hopefully get a sense of ordering something to be made and then paying for it once it is made. Perfect picture of Our Redeemer, Who is First Our Creator, huh...

      Hebrew QANAH is the main operative verb for our salvation and our redemption, especially considering the wordplay in Gen4:1 (Eve is making a very funny statement using qanah and qayin). Wordplay on qayin, qanah, halal and hallel, wordplay on salvation, the Gen3 curse to the woman, the woman being delivered by delivery, redemption, Him being pierced for our sins to result in the praise of God, Isa53:5 and 11 piercing and pregnancy analogies (depicting Cross mechanics -- Isaiah alludes back to Ps139:13 via halal in 53:5, via amal in 53:11, explaining Why we could BE purchased -- Messiah was born OUT FROM David, so salvation is born OUT from Him who was pierced, made pregnant with sin, ties also to 2Cor5:21); then there's the play on Gen4:1 and Gen17:5, Abram's circumcision, the "spear" which speared (halal) for all time, bought (qanah) for all time, our sanctification (hagios, as related to hallel)as Bride! delivered to Him by delivery OUT from The Labor Pains of The Man, the Spear of Spears! -- wordplay goes on forever. Too much to even list as a mnemonic paragraph for later research! Astounding perfection of wordplay. Knocks me flat!

  4. David's not using the word "soul" or "life" in the first clause: term literally means "kidneys", and often in Bible's poetic or dramatic metaphor, "kidneys" represents the emotions. Now think: emotions are not in the soul, but the body -- your BODY is what feels emotion, But if no soul gets that feedback, there's no recognized FEELING. Why? Because NO SOUL EXISTS YET. After all, only God can create a soul.

      Body and soul have to be able to 'talk' to each other. So you can control how you feel. Do this experiment: yell nastily for at least two minutes, and watch how your body reacts. There's a sort of shock, then other feelings tack on. Then, talk nicely to yourself and watch how the body reacts. See? it's the body which feels, and your soul is TELLING it how to feel. When music is played, the music is telling your body how to feel. Because you have a soul, the body feeds the feeling to your soul. We humans mistake feeling for some kind of truth, which is a tragedy. No different from drugs.

  5. If we pretend (and we can, because Scripture is multilevel in meaning) that David is talking about the soul here in the first clause, the first clause should be translated, YOU DECREED/ ORDERED MY BODY PARTS.

      Obviously only God can create a soul, but in this clause that's not the point being made. God Owns Life. It's even stronger, really: GOD BUYS LIFE. It's a You-are-My-Redeemer wordplay: only God has the money! How precious is this punning word! See, one of the running themes in the OT for Israel is that Israel is God's 'special possession', a treasure FOR HIMSELF. David's also got that theme in mind. Utterly beautiful. See, since only God creates, there's a second issue which arises: HOW MUCH DOES HE CHERISH what He creates? If, at all? You can buy something because you should, or must, or for other reasons than how much you WANT the thing you buy, see.

  6. Yet another layer of meaning in this first clause: God is depicted as CHOOSING for the body parts to BECOME a human being. It's a contract purchase metaphor, very beautiful. God orders you to be made. Because, qanah and ktaomai are in tenses which stress REALITY OF ACQUISITION: the qal perfect has a connotation of never-was-a-time-when-this-acquisition-wouldn't-be-chosen. It's a really strong statement about being always ELECTED BY GOD in eternity past, and sets up the dramatic climax in v.16. Greek aorist indicative has the same essential meaning: time-divorced-from-time is how you first learn about that tense's root meaning, when studying Biblical Greek.

  7. Note the precision: first clause, God ORDERS. Second clause, God makes the HOUSE/CLOTHING to CONTAIN what He has ordered, by means of, through, in the womb. We'll cover that second clause, in a minute, but here the chronological order, is important. It's the same as the making of Adam, body-first. Bible is always consistent. The real you is your soul. Body is not you, not your soul.

  8. Note Narrator Perspective: this is a key hermeneutical principle in all Scripture. You have to make sure you note the POSITION of the speaker relative to the action he speaks about. For example, John's 'position' in Revelation is not in any of the worldly events he narrates, after Rev4:1, the Rapture. So, look here: David himself, obviously, is OUTSIDE the womb and writing about it, so his BODY is now outside the womb so he is a "me" OUTSIDE. He's LOOKING BACK on the exact mechanics of how GOD made him a "him", see. It's yet another syntactical tool (and a frequent one) Bible uses to show no soul is ever in a womb, because David is not in the womb when he says it, and he's not using any words which would say he HAD been.

      Here's how you know. If the narrator was saying his soul was IN the womb, he'd use other words to indicate that: particularly, the Bible words nephesh or ruach. Nephesh means "life" or "soul". Ruach means "Spirit" (as in Holy Spirit), breath or breathing, wind, puff, etc.; sometimes ruach is used to mean "life", with emphasis on the aliveness (breathing). (Greek equivalents are psuche and pneuma.) So we know he is talking about feeling, not soul. Of course, NO FETUS BREATHES IN THE WOMB, so we shouldn't be surprised that neither ruach nor nephesh are used. [Talk to an OB/GYN, and you'll learn that a fetus' nostrils are PLUGGED UP. One of the first things an obstretician/midwife must do after a fetus is pulled out from a womb, is clear its nostrils so the (now) baby can EXHALE. If no exhale, stillborn. Exhale is often a cry, to clear the lungs, which for the first time, start working. Bible uses the same EXHALING terminology in "spirit" verses, and death verses (e.g., how Ananias dies in Acts 5, Greek expsuche, lit., breathe-out-soul).]

      So because those words aren't used, but instead the body word of kilyah (Gk: nephros), lit. kidneys, as noted above, we know David's talking about his BODY, not his soul. Hence, by using a physical word, lit., kidneys, with a known metaphorical usage to indicate feeling, God conveys PHYSICAL being. That "physical being" is the best translation, also best fits the second clause, as you'll see later on. So: again, both Masoretic Text and LXX use the same word, "kidneys". So, to translate it 'innermost being' is misleading as a term, in English. It's 'innermost', alright, but What kind of 'being' are we talking about? See how important precision is, in translating?

      For, he could have chosen different words. God inspired David to write this: surely God is aware how a verse can be interpreted, since God is omniscient. Since God never tempts, He'd take great care in what words He gives David to write. So the student of the Word should take great care, too. Again, you can find a whole lot of passages with "womb" in them, and carefully examine the original Hebrew or Greek, like we're doing here, to check consistency. For God is perfect, and one verse will never contradict another. Always but always compare Scripture with Scripture, so you can protect yourself from hallucinating a meaning.

      Again, words matter. Position words matter. John keeps on stressing how he's Not On Earth in the Revelation vision he recounts, after the Rapture "door" opens, in Rev4:1. Here's another example: look at Heb10:5. That verse is literally saying that the Lord spoke the very second He was born. It's not figurative, and it's not a looking-back quote; actually, the writer of Hebrews is telling us about the fulfillment of a prophecy in Ps40:5ff, and is using dramatic/pictorial tense, to convey it live.

        Actually, Heb10:5 confirms our passage here, because it uses the verb katartizw, in the "A Body YOU HAVE PREPARED" verse. Capped letters are that verb. To make a thing prepared or ready is not the same thing as creating it. "PREPARED FOR ME". Not not not not "'prepared' EQUALS 'Me'." Note the differentiation between body, and "me". God is precisely consistent, in His Word. Ps139:14,16 likewise differentiate, as you'll see below.

  9. So now we have a workable translation (Masoretic=LXX Text) of the first clause of v.13, which of course you can now freely dispute, since you are armed with the data yourself:

    "For You, Oh Lord, DECREED my physical being;"

    For fun, cycle through the other meanings of the verb, like "acquired", "possessed", "purchased", "ordered", etc. Because, it's often true that when Bible uses a multi-meaninged verb, it's giving you a skyscraper of meaning, not just a single floor. Because, Omniscience, Truth, GOD! Is Infinitely High.

  10. Let's now look at the second clause. Its main verb is plagued by bad scholarship. You'll see something like "helped" or "wove", or "knitted", ALL of which are horribly misleading. Bible Hebrew verb is SAKAK (saw-KHAK). It's a COVERING, CLOTHING, PROTECTING, HOUSING type of verb. AN OUTER COVERING, and specifically a BOOTH -- because David is playing on the Feast of Booths, in this verse. So SAKAK at best, is a 'weaving' like you do for CLOTH, or any kind of INTRICATE construction of an INANIMATE object, like shingling for a roof, bricklaying, etc. Idea of fitting together many parts in a precise way so all form a FUNCTIONING OR structurally-secure) UNIT. In every case where this verb is used, the OBJECT is some kind of COVER or CONTAINER. So the verb has a root action of MAKING a COVER, CONTAINER, HOUSE. You should really trace this word in the OT, because when you do you'll realize how it cannot mean soul life. For, God uses SAKAK about the clouds 'covering' Him (Lam3:44). We know that's figurative, but again -- note how the clouds are NOT LIFE, and NOT GOD. So get a good lexicon on this.

    Here's another important thing, the TENSE. Verb tense tells you where-in-time, how-long-in-time, dependency-on-something-else, and similar stuff. Hebrew imperfect and perfect tenses aren't like other languages' perfect and imperfect, fundamentally. Usually, the imperfect tense stresses something's ACTION, without reference to completion; or, WITH REFERENCE to its GOING ON, AND implying that it didn't GET completed. Spanish is particulary keen on this usage. PERFECT tense in nearly all languages stresses the COMPLETION of an action, and usually there's some communication about the RESULTS of the completion.

    Hebrew (and Hebraistic use of Greek in the Bible, viz., in John 1) takes a different approach, especially when GOD is the SUBJECT. The Hebrew differentiates between NON-TIME and TIME. A real good brief on this is written by the well-respected scholar, Thorlief Boman, Hebrew Thought Compared with Greek, which you can buy for only $12 from Amazon. Here's the point: when using the IMPERFECT but God is the SUBJECT, stress is on NON-TIME, with the tandem idea that NOTHING ELSE EXISTS. When using PERFECT but God is the SUBJECT, the stress is on either or both IN TIME, FOR TIME, or, DECREE.

    So here, the IMPERFECT of SAKAK is used. Contrast that with the PERFECT of QANAH in the first clause, and you can see a causal relationship is stressed. David DOESN'T exist; God ORDERED his existence, and as a result, a HOUSE/ WARDROBE is constructed. All this, before there is existence; at least, before DAVID's existence. You get that meaning from the way the qal (mood of reality) is used first as PERFECT, then IMPERFECT. Now, if you factor in the 'normal' meaning of the imperfect (for sakak), you get still the idea of something not yet existent, but IN PROGRESS, or under-development. Like, a house under construction.

  11. LXX's main verb in the second clause of v.13 is very different from the Hebrew, at least in its focus, though its "aorist" tense conveys existence DIVORCED from time. (Well, better said: in time or out of time is not relevant, only the action of the verb is relevant; not whatever else is around it or affected by it.) Modern Russian has an aorist, but English doesn't. It's impossible to translate this tense in English with its real meaning. [Translators often resort to the PAST or PERFECT or simple present tense, depending on what the translator thinks of the REST of the context. Frankly, I wish they'd just stick in other English words to convey the tense, because often in English ADVERBS or adverbial phrases will convey the tense.]

    The very common Bible Greek verb "antilambanomai" (or antilabou, shortened version) doesn't seem to get a lot of attention in the lexicons, so let's break down the components of this compound verb. "Anti" is a preposition which means "instead of", and hence often "against", as in "hostile". But also, "against" as in "close", which is probably more the meaning here, due to what "lambano" means, in Greek. "Lambano" has a variety of meanings and uses, but stresses the ACQUISITION, a taking. So, is often translated "receive", but with stress on the subject's taking action TO RECEIVE something. "Help" is a really bad translation! Look: if you take a cookie, you are helping yourself to the cookie. That's the idea: verb is in the "middle voice", which has the root meaning of, as my pastor puts it, "acting with reference to oneself, for the benefit of oneself". There are other uses of the middle voice (the "omai" suffix is reflexive, a kind of passive, a participating-in), but clearly God is acting for Himself. Doing something to benefit Himself.

      However, there's a special meaning of this verb, in Mosaic Law: it means to DEVOTE SOMETHING. That is, consecration. So God DEVOTES TO HIMSELF, David. And -- the Greek says EK GASTROS -- OUTSIDE his mother's womb. Not inside. [Everywhere I could find this verb used in Bible, it has a dedication sense, way stronger than 'help', for crying out loud. Even when negative, as in dedicated-to-evil. Translations of it vary greatly, though.]

      Now you see why "anti" is attached in front of lambano. For, lambano alone would only mean taking something to receive benefit to self. But, the "anti" shows you the object being taken is benefitted BY being taken. What's Best for God, IS IS IS what's Best for us! For Father, or forget it: if it's not to benefit FATHER, not DEVOTED to FATHER, it's of no desirable benefit to Me whatsoever. THE CROSS! If you look at Psalm 138 (137 in LXX), knowing that David was lying prostrate on the threshing floor or maybe even on Petra (bedrock on which Isaac was laid, later becomes the seat of the Ark, Holy of Holies); if you realize there he was seeing the FUTURE Son of David being sacrificed for our sins; then you realize NOW that this, too, is a prophetic recognition: CHRIST DEVOTED TO FATHER FROM BIRTH. Heb10:5.

  12. So, using the LXX, we'd best translate this second clause of v.13,
    "You DEVOTED me TO YOURSELF from OUTSIDE my mother's womb."
    Big difference in the translation, huh. Really, "from birth" would be a more idiomatic English translation, as my pastor likes to remind us, but I'm not using him as a source, for this table's exegesis, but only BibleWorks reference materials. (Just their text and lexicons, not their commentaries.)
  13. What about the Masoretic text's translation? What would that be? Well, let's look:
    "You constructed my 'house' INSIDE my mother's womb."
    Note how we have to add a noun to convey that an INANIMATE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION is meant by the verb. This is what the translators should have done! For, when you take the time to look at all the other "womb" verses, you'll find they ALL talk about life OUTSIDE the womb; but this one is talking about INSIDE and uses a verb of INANIMATE construction. So if you don't add an INANIMATE noun, you make Scripture look like it contradicts itself.

    To say "my house" is idiomatic English: "house for me" is closer to the Hebrew, because the verb is a housing-verb, and the object is "me". Maybe it's disputable whether "house" should be used, since SAKAK is more especially concerned with only COVERINGS, like roofs or clothing or clouds But we know from other verses in Scripture that the body is but a house, so I followed that convention here. Also, the Hebrew word for HOUSE is "Beth" : really, just the letter B, which is named "Beth" (soft "t" sound, not "the" sound) is a picture of a house (with a person inside, if a dagesh is put in there). So it's a kind of wordplay to use "womb", for the Hebrew word is "beten", get it? A house for a house.

      Of course, the sad thing is, translations in English reverse the meaning of the preposition "out from", "from OUTSIDE" (Hebrew "min", Greek "ek"), with "womb" verses, yet conveniently remember to say from OUTSIDE or similar correct meanings, with other objects. Hmmm.

  14. So now let's combine both clauses to get variant translations of all Ps139:13:

    "For You, Oh Lord, DECREED my physical being;"

    "You DEVOTED me TO YOURSELF from OUTSIDE my mother's womb."
    Or,

    "For You, Oh Lord, DECREED my physical being;"

    "You constructed my 'house' INSIDE my mother's womb."

    Look at all the trouble we had to go to, just to get a corrected translation of only one verse. See what pastors are supposed to do? They should get paid a Bizillion dollars a year, to translate and teach Scripture, because surely we'll never be able to come up with a right translation in sellable print; because surely Bible verses should be taught in the original languages! Look how much extra meaning is in just this one verse, compared to the translation you have? No offense, but: which is worse, to abort a fetus, or the Living Word Of God?

    So for you to get more value out of it, play with the other meanings of the verbs, etc. Because, this is one of the strongest ways to claim the promise that God loves you, protects you, guides you, has a plan for your life. You weren't the product of some mindless process: you were Devoted. Decreed. Elected. Bought in advance. One can probably spend all day "in" just this verse's many floors of meaning.

    One more thing: notice how the two very different second clauses do not contradict each other, now. In the English translations, "help" and "wove" contradict, and since LXX uses OUTSIDE the womb, but Masoretic "inside", it's a real problem. But not now. So which is the real Bible verse of the second clause? Well, I don't know. Both accord with all the other verses, in the original languages, so far as I can tell. And, the two don't contradict each other, in the original. Nor now, in the corrected translation, no matter which 'floor' of the verbs' meanings, you use. Heh.

  15. Because the LXX mirrors the same meaning as the inspired Hebrew texts; because each text uses two seemingly-contradictory verbs in the second clause of v.13; because (probably) this verse is soooo strong, translators have a problem with it. Translators either choose the LXX or the Masoretic text as their base for translating. So, you find "wove" or "knitted", in translations using the Masoretic text, to translate SAKAK. In English, the non-life construction meaning of the verb is not recognized. There's no English verb I can think of to even convey that this is a verb used for intricate/weave-type constructing of INANIMATE things. Its poetic usage thus misleads, unless you add a noun. Of course, if a translation is using the LXX, it mistranslates antilambanomai as "help", and mistranslates as "in", the Greek preposition ek, which is only PARTITIVE (separatist) -- as even Mounce's basic Biblical Greek text would tell you (see his Appendix on prepositions). [Nerd note: older seminary texts developed an eight-case system for classifying Greek cases. It's really the better system, because Latin was a common tongue at the time the NT was written, so it's easier to catch meanings which God might have also intended due to the Latin construction then. No language is free from having nuances from other languages within the people's borders. So Hebraisms, Latinisms, other Greek dialects, Aramaisms, abounded in the NT. In the 8-case system, this "partitive" is called "the ablative of separation", and is the more apt description for how "ek" is commonly used. Not always, but commonly.]

      Obviously more words should be put into the English, to show what the Living God says. But, oh no! Don't break the horrible tradition of one-word-for-one-word translation! As a translator, you'd be executed if you followed a rule like that, even in Caesar's day. Look: the meaning of a word in a language is not usually clear on its own, but only by context. If I say to you "I save", which kind of save am I talking about? If another language uses different words for different kinds of SAVING, which word do they use? What if I am playing on more than one meaning at the same time, by my word choice? You'd know that in the original language I use because of context. But if you tyrannize the translation mechanic to just one of many different words for "save", then the reader of the translation won't really get out of the translation, what the speaker meant.

  16. So the second clause of v.13 is a blatant statement that God doesn't make life in the womb, but instead makes only a 'covering', a testudo, a shell, a house. A covering for the soul. David's likening his body to clothing or shelter. Not soul life, but a shell.

  17. Ps139:14 is handled poorly, because David uses sounds and wordplay not converted over into English, so you miss key information in the verse. The sounds after "ki"=because go like this "nofra'ot neph'leiti neph'la'im". David plays on sound. The verb shown here as "neph'leiti" means to separate, spotlight, highlight. For example, David uses neph'leiti to make a distinction between being ALIVE, and being in the womb; the divider being "distinction", idea of being OUTSIDE the womb and even weaned. He makes a FFF'ing (like breathing) sound. What's rendered above "neph'la'im" is a verb also: "be wonderful", in Hebrew. It's WONDERFUL to be OUTSIDE, see. You can 'hear' the FFAH-Beh-AFFFya sound used at the end of Gen2:7, when God breathes lives into the nostrils of the previously-formed-from-ground body of Adam. It's extremely witty, since the word for nose also means ANGER, and Omniscience knows full well what commitment is being made: He'll be hearing the anger forever!

      In Ps139:14, the niphal FEMININE PLURAL of yare (=fear/respect/awe) is a PARTICIPLE; that's the key to understanding the SEPARATION PRODUCING LIFE. [Obviously you can't fear/have awe until born. Naphesh, to breath life, only takes the niphal. So David's playing on Gen2:7. LIVES were breathed into Adam, spiritual and soul. David is saved, so he has "lives", too. But he DOESN'T use the verb here to reference himself, but rather it references GOD's WORKS, because it's in the masculine plural. So you know right away that the translation in 139:14 is wrong.]

        It's important, also, because "separated" has a connotation under the Mosaic law of "consecrated" -- tying again to v.13's qanah, God's DECREEING David's existence in eternity past. David is born to WONDER, AWE of SEEING GOD. It's another seeing-Son-of-David-Messiah expression, more than how David's body is made. No end of future wonders!

    Also, this is the only verse in the passage which uses "nephesh", ("soul", here, because only a SOUL can KNOW something).

    Let's do a rough translation of the Hebrew of this verse, because it's too beautiful to pass up. It will be awkwardly done, to bring in stuff which translations miss. It translates better poetically in five English clauses, taking into account meanings of stems (hiphil of "praise" is causative and imperfect, for example, so it's unending, playing on his unending soul; and causation is a stressed theme of this couplet). Well, here goes:

    I am CAUSED to unendingly THANK You;
    BECAUSE YOU CAUSE ME,
    [separated to] marked out for unending WONDERS,
    YOUR WONDEROUS WORKS!
    My soul's overflowing with knowledge [of You, of Your Truth]!"

    [First English 'verse' here is just the first two Hebrew words. You could leave out the "YOU CAUSE", if you're a stickler for the words being in the verse but they are in the meaning; moreover, that meaning ties to v.13, plus (covered below) v.15's use of min+God; and there's a doubling-of-cause due to the ki and hiphil in v.14, plus the niphal is stressed in v.14. So you almost have to create an extra English clause, to reference all that causational stress. "Overflowing" is, by contrast, the concatenation of yadah-me'od, to know something exceedingly strongly. me'od has an unending, overflowing connotation to it, not merely "well". Ties to Paul's Eph3:20. Finally, David's interjecting. That is, he's stopped looking back at his body being made, and is reacting to his status quo. In v.15 he returns to a look-back stance.]

  18. Verse 15 talks about the parts of David's "shell" house. He's making two points about his body's creation, which in translation you should be able to notice: it's a happy mysterY to him (not a secret, for crying out loud), a) how God Could Want To Go To All This Trouble; and b) how his organic components are made. But, as the verse poetically notes, they are no mystery to the God who made Adam. Really, there's much more to this verse, especially the first clause, than I have time to point out. Hebrew has more in it than being translated.

      If you are a prolifer, you do want to investigate the meaning of the Masoretic text's "khahad" (first word in the verse), for that verb is the closest justification for counselling against abortion you'll ever find. Verse is not saying abortion is murder, but (imo) something far more accurate, and far more important: God makes the choice. To say khahad means "hidden", does go with "seter", hiding place (womb, earth parallel); but look more closely at what khahad really means: kicked AWAY, cast off, so 'hidden' in the sense of unwanted. Also, protection is more in view, with David's use of the term "secret". Also look up the many meanings of (y)otsem, usu.translated merely "bones" or "frame", so you can better enjoy the wordplay of the verse.

      Here, I'd bet money David's saying more his amazement that God didn't abort his fetus. Remember, this is the guy who in Ps32 was really hurting over his loss of Bathsheba's firstborn. That punishment was awesome, according to my pastor's exegesis of Ps32:1-5. So, although David's not claiming soul life is in the womb, still: why would God have wanted that fetus, which became David's body; David, a big sinner.. why would God have wanted that fetus to come to term? See, it took nine months; God had time to change His mind, so to speak. If you don't read the Hebrew of this verse, you'll really miss a lot of treasure.

      To try to convey the flavor, here's a very rough poetic translation of the Hebrew of Ps139:15: "Not cast off, all my bones, from your min-making; but crafted in 'hiding', [like] the bowels of the earth." [David uses either 12 or 14 syllables per clause, depending on how you count the vowels. I could have used "Cast away" and then make both clauses have 12 syllables, to match the number of the tribes of Israel; but "cast off" in English is stronger, imo, so I sacrificed a syllable in the first clause.]

      There's an alternate meaning; which, given the fondness of OT for double-entendre (to always reference the coming Messiah), might be even more intended, due to the min+God construction in Hebrew. The difference is capitalized: "Not cast off, all my bones, MADE APART FROM YOU; but crafted in 'hiding', [like] the bowels of the earth." (This second rendering pays closer attention to word proximity in Hebrew. I had to sacrifice a syllable in the second clause.)

      Note how both layers of meaning fit beautifully. What a Genius God is. Of course, to say "min-making" isn't quite right, because the verb "asah" is more a Decree than an actual making: see Gen1:26-27, and track its usage in Gen1 as a synonym for "and God said" (Hebrew likes to vary expressions, just as in English we shy from repeating the same keywords too closely together: "I did what I did because I did it" sounds childish, for example. God's Bible, though, always adds key information when it varies expression.) Min, as a noun, always means SEPARATE lifeform type (or type-group): see its use in Genesis. So, too, as a preposition: always means OUT FROM, SEPARATED FROM, AWAY FROM, FROM OUTSIDE: it's the key Biblical Hebrew preposition of birth.

      Which means Ps139:15's use of min as a preposition, with God's PERSON attached to it, stresses God's CHOICE even more than it stresses His Apartness from what's happening in the womb. We know that because the personal suffix designating God is ATTACHED to the preposition, rather than the normal method of designating 'person', attaching to the verb! God is soo precise!

      But the English doesn't even translate the preposition! But in the Hebrew, its APARTNESS is stressed! I really don't know how anyone can miss this, when translating. After all, I'm only using BibleWorks. Look: word order goes like this. Slashes are put between the English words to denote one Hebrew word, because Hebrew compounds persons etc. to words in a way English doesn't. (I believe Hebrew is classed as an "agglutinative" language, but my brain might be out on the term.) So: Not cast off/ my bones/ APART FROM YOU/ which/ were made/ in hiding place/ skillfully wrought/ beneath/ the earth. See how "APART FROM YOU" interrupts sentence flow? Stressing apartness? Not to mention, the normal Hebrew verb PREfixes the SUBJECT of the verb. But never here. Instead, God is 'suffixed' to the preposition min.

      Finally, does no one recognize David's looking down the road at the future Messiah, Son Of david, here? Grateful to God that he gets to be used as a progenitor of that Body? See what a difference it makes, to realize what the original languages of Scripture themselves say? To cheapen the Word of God for a political crusade is monstrous enough. But, at least, get the words, right! What if God wants that fetus to come to term? That's what amazes David. See, you don't have to lie against the Word of God to have a Biblical reason to avoid abortion...

  19. So in Ps139:15, we also know David's talking about organic components, because "made" is "asah", the same creation decision word used for the creation of Adam, in Genesis 1:26. Reinforcing this fact is the keyphrase, "Lower parts of the earth" (or however your translation reads). Again, this refers to how God made Adam "from the dust of the ground" (or however your Genesis translation of Adam's creation reads), in Gen2:7. That's also echoed in the Bible refrain, "from ashes to ashes, from dust to dust" or the famous "from dust I came, to dust I shall return". (Again, translations vary.) Note how dust is inanimate. Note how when one is buried (as in DEAD), one is buried under the earth. So the fetus is like a corpse. Not breathing, get it?

      David keeps using INANIMATE verbs. In fact, I can't find anywhere in Gen2:7, nor anywhere in Bible, an animate verb that [God, obviously] 'creates' a soul. Even all the creation verbs, like bara, banah, asah and jatser always have NON-SOUL components as objects used in the creating (bara, being from nothingness). However, God BREATHING the soul INTO a body at birth is the phrasing He chooses FOR the creation of the soul, as in Gen2:7.

      Whew. God is consistent in His Word. And, of course with common sense, for God Always Makes Sense: for, the soul is immaterial, so nothing physical can make iT. Duh. So, now it makes sense why no creation verb is used with "soul" in Bible, but rather only a breathing-verb. [Or, onomopoetic sound of EXHALE, as in v.15's first clause, and v.14's ffff'ing with the nephel-sounds. (Hebrew letters are how-to-use-your-mouth phonetic diagrams.)] So we know now for a fact that no soul life is in the womb, for no creation verb is ever used WITH "soul". God's mechanism for physical creation always uses some fashioning verb, but HE never uses those verbs to indicate soul life is created; rather, only BREATHING-INTO verbs are used, for soul creation.

      Same style, when describing the Gen1:2 rehab'ing of the world by the Holy Spirit (can't miss the 'breath' connotation in the speaking metaphor, which even sounds like our "rehab" in English -- Hebrew word translated "hover" is "me rehafah"); same style, for the Lord as Creator, in Jn1 ("Word", again breathe-speak is all God need 'do'), Matt4:3 or Heb1:1-4; same style, when describing the mechanics of our spiritual births and spiritual lives in John 3, Titus 3:5, 2Tim3:16 (well, theopneustos, don't remember exact location), etc. Can't make the mechanic plainer, than that. Now I understand why my pastor has always stated soul creation as breathing-into! Just a word from the Word, and it is. All else, is a nothingness (note that bara is used three times in Gen1:27). [Gen1:7 uses asah, but note the decree connotation in the last clause, which in English Bibles is rendered something like "and it was so." That is a common refrain for the Enactment Of A King's DecreE.]

    Commentaries I have say the "lower parts..earth" is figurative for womb, which is TRUE. The word rendered "Secret" is sether, in Hebrew, and kruphe, in Greek. Term has the connotation of invisibility, hiding place, unseen, but most especially, unknowable, beyond comprehension, past finding out. But the way it's used, is from David's WONDER about it (see v.14 for context). The Hebrew raqam is another 'making' verb that again means weaving an INANIMATE 'covering' within that 'hidden place'. The wordplay is so dazzling, when you think it over.

    Commentaries use the verb raqam to also justify saying it's the womb that's in view. Yes. But they neglect to say that this verse uses wordplay to depict the exact same Hebrew/Greek procedure as in Gen2:7, Adam's body creation, which is very distinctly first; and then very distinctly life is breathed into him, AFTERwardS.

    Bible writers reference other Scripture when they take care to use the keywords of that Scripture. So the translator should have noticed this and taken it into account in his translation. Or at very least, the commentators should have! (This same kind of omission is common. So you miss, for example in John 1, how John is making a play on the Sacred Tetragrammaton; on the Indwelling of the Glory of the Lord in the OT Temple, etc. Pity.)

    We also know they're organic components from the LXX, which uses "hupostasis", the quintessential principle on which all the universe is constructed, if you look into Greek science or any modern scientific law you like. Unity of opposites. The Lord's Human Nature is a hupostasis with His Divine Nature. (DueDisclosure.htm says a lot on this topic.) Translated usually "substance", it misleads.

      So "bones" now makes sense, doesn't it? Of course, if you want to pretend David is not talking about his physical being, you'd use words like "frame" instead of "bones" (for, it's SKELETON, get it?), and "substance", nice and fuzzy as it is, is safely mistaken. Boy-zhyamoy. Jewish rabbis will tell you that abortion is not murder, but they always counsel against abortion; Talmudic rabbis decided to say that after 40 days, it was considered 'life', so to best apply the Law (so gershom of undernet's #hebrew once informed me). It's their interpretation which the Catholic Church picked up, not Scripture. And translations were screwed up, as a result. Clearly, no one wants an abortion. But that's not the issue: What does GOD want? Not the state, not someone else. All this, prompted the Talmudic rabbis. All this, prompted David's wonder. Why take a sacred FAITH question, and profane it on the altar of politics?

  20. One more comment about v.15: translations of the second clause's verb are very bad: for David again is talking about the INANIMATE INTRICATE construction of his 'house'. Verb in Hebrew is raqam, and that term is again used for WEAVING CLOTH. This time, the SKILL is emphasized. Greek word is much more generalized, poiew, to do/make; so the Greek adds a noun to denote the weaver-skill. Like we should do, when we translate the Hebrew verb, for crying out loud, to make it clear INANIMATE object is being 'embroidered'! Masoretic version of this verse has TWO verbs, asah and raqam. Greek verb doubles for BOTH clauses, so there's no Greek verb in the second clause, in the LXX. But they translate nearly the same in meaning.

  21. Now to v.16. NIV is pretty close to the actual meaning, so we'll just stick with its rendering, except "came to be" is really "before the days themselves were FORMED", or something similar, again stressing David had NO existence while in the womB. He's playing on his unformed body being part of the unformed days. Greek is plauso, future passive indicative 3rd plural (because "days" is the subject). Goes with akatergastos, UNFORMED fetus. Obviously a day does not exist until it DAWNS, is BORN. So too, a fetus. Hebrew construction is similar: YATSER is used, so again it's wordplay on Gen2:7, the forming of INANIMATE Adam's body. Golem is used to denote the fetus. Again, David's drawing a parallel between a non-life and non-day, nonetheless in the mind of God. Decreed. Devoted.

    So now, do you see why Verse 13 is not talking about soul life? All this time David was talking ONLY of his physical house, his body. Whatever version you have of Ps139:16, it should be clear almost even in translation that David's saying he had NO life in the womb. Take this logic test of the translation you have: note the distinction he makes between his "unwrought substance" or "form" (or however your Bible translates it) and himself: do you see he distinguishes what is not life, there? If he as HUMAN and the fetal 'substance' were the same, there'd be no distinction needed..a body God prepared for him. Ps40:5ff, and especially, Heb10:5 now tie perfectly to.. MESSIAH!

  22. There's more wit to show. Again, this passage is one of God's bald statements that I, not the womb, CONCEIVED you, so next note 139:17 with that italic meaning in mind. Well, wait: gotta say something about the ending of that verse. You probably have something like "how great are the sum of them [the thoughts of God]" at the end of your verse. What's sooooo cool about the Hebrew and Greek there is wordplay on HEAD, a body part, and HEAD, the idea of ruling. Sovereign. Thinking. Will. Alive. God is alive. Now David is alive. OUTSIDE THE WOMB. So, David has a will. So David is a Ruler. So David too, can THINK. All this, MADE BY GOD, no one else.

    So watch how delicious is his wordplay, which depends on you knowing no soul life was in the womb: David's playing on how he was IN THE MIND-WOMB of God in eternity past; once on the inside, shut in, not alive, 'secret', just a bucket of bones and tissue, only 'alive' in the Mind of God, only God could see all that biology forming; but now, David himself is really alive! So, (heh) on the OUTSIDE, looking 'out' at the Beautimous Emeth (Truth, Doctrine, Thoughts) of His Creator. It's a fantastic way to say that the entire and only meaning life is TO HEAR/SEE GOD'S THOUGHTS. Else, better to never be born. Amen.

Ohhh how beautiful this passage IS! How much Meaning In The Word people miss when they warp Scripture to suit human political agendas which glorify Caesar, but never God; we've learned nothing from the evil Crusades; men in pulpits who, instead of teaching the meaning of the passage, grab a snippet mistranslated Word, read it for 50 seconds in sonorous tones and a 'reverend' Doctor's robe; then move to a 'pastoral message' of harangue for activism in the devil's world? Claiming that mistranslated snippet as justification? Jesus never once did that: why do we? You don't need to claim abortion murder, which it patently is not, to wisely counsel against it. So please, don't abort the Living Word?

The woman who interrupted the Lord got quashed by Him for giving mommies credit too: Luke 11:27-28. The 'milk' of the Word, not even mother's milk, is what gets the credit.

Let's return to the topic of His OT style of Possessiveness about being SOLE CREATOR. HIS Perspective is Infinite, so is all-encompassing. We all know God is Truth. Not merely some truth, but Infinite, ALL truth. So, for Truth To Be Truth, it must consistently operate. A TRUTH MUST ALWAYS WORK IN THE SAME ROOT FASHION. So, then: it makes Sense that Sovereignty would have this Possessive, Want-To-Be-Intimate attitude, given God's other Attributes, for if (and we know it's true) God is Infinite, then He is adamant about whatever 'opinion' (so to speak) He 'has'. He must WILLFULLY connect Himself to a thing for it to be valid. If the thing itself of itself, though sparked (neshemmah, word in man's Genesis creation), does anything OF itself, God is NOT in that. Of course, sin is something we do of ourselves, and Christ Had To Connect Himself To Sin On The Cross Or We Wouldn't Be Saved.

Now, let's look at the blasphemy question: is it BLASPHEMOUS, not merely incorrect, to say there is SOUL life IN the womb? For, if you are testing an interpretation of Scripture, only the RIGHT interpretation will conquer ALL the alternative ones. So, let's pretend that no one ever wanted an abortion nor ever got one. Let's pretend further that we BELIEVED life was in the womb, we LOVED that fact, and we WANTED whatever stirrings were there, to BE life. (Which, frankly, is true of every mother; it's part of the biological emotion of motherhood in pregnancy. See an obstetrician.) God would call this BELIEVING, LOVING, WANTING, blasphemy. Understandable blasphemy, unintentional blasphemy, but LEGALLY 'blasphemy', just the same. For, some 'other author' is being credited: biology. Ooops.

And, it IS blasphemy to say the soul is in the womb; for in real life, not all fetuses come to term, human or otherwise; spontaneous abortions, even in the very act of birthing, occur. Of course, there are the deliberate ones, too. But look: GOD LETS IT HAPPEN. He even punished David by KILLING David's firstborn of Bathsheba, seven days AFTER birth. (2Sam12:18.) GOD CAN STOP ABORTION. HE CAN PUNISH IT BETTER THAN WE CAN. So, is God a MURDERER? Perish the thought! But.. um, HE DOES let it happen. So, if NO life is in the womb, then no murder, either. Whew. So, biology we KNOW is consistent with the Bible we know. Whew.

Moreover, if you study biology and especially pathology, you'll find that PAINFUL diseases ARE painful due to blood change, tissue change, organ change, bone change, etc.. Keyword is "change". Heck, even all NON-pathological growing functions are generally PAINFUL. Teething, for example. That's why we have the aphorism, growing pains. So, if there really WERE a soul in the womb, it would FEEL all that DEVELOPING-BODY-PART change (only the soul has self-consciousness, so there is no feeling perceived if no soul). It would BE TRAPPED, TORTURED FOR NINE MONTHS? Tell me: Would Father do this to His Son???? Is God a Sadist, then, to PUT a soul in the womb? He would indeed BE, IF IF IF IF IF there really WAS a soul in the womb. Perish the thought! So, if NO life is in the womb, then no sadism, either. Whew. So, biology we KNOW is consistent with the Bible we know. Whew.

Okay, let's switch gears, and pretend that some magical answer invalidates the above facts. What remains? Well, we are left with the fact that God CREATES LIFE. So, why then should CAESAR get JURISDICTION OVER what belongs to GOD? CAESAR doesn't have the legal standing to CREATE LIFE, and therefore doesn't have the legal standing to RULE ON WHAT creates life. Like Romans 13 says, government is given by God the rod, including capital punishment, but NOT the authority to create life. So, Caesar has no JUDICIAL STANDING on the matter of defining life. Only GOD can do that. Exodus 21:22 is quite clear on that point: it is NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER if a fetus is caused to abort by someone else. Of course, GIVEN the above paragraphs' facts, THIS VERSE NOW MAKES SENSE. Else God would be guilty, too... Perish the thought! [For a list of English translations which properly translate the word "miscarriage" in that verse, pull up SatSpin.htm and search on "Exodus 21:22". There is a small-font note in there which lists at least 6 English versions, including the Catholic Douhay-Rheims. Frankly, what is always the problem in translations is that people CHOP OUT meanings in the original-language words. So, the translations differ. Here, the Hebrew (or LXX) LEGAL PHRASE rendered variantly "miscarriage", "imperfectly formed", etc. is ALL-encompassing, not just one LAYER OF MEANING chopped out to make a translator comply to the one-English-for-one-Bible word STUPID RULE, which no secular translator in his right mind would follow unless he liked getting fired from the job! Instead, ALL the meanings, viz., no matter WHAT DAMAGE occurred to the fetus, whether actually born deformed or not born or aborted..it's NOT a criminal issue.]

Another corollary: WHAT DOES GOD WANT? Even if we pretend that it really was murder to abort a fetus -- which, considering all the foregoing, should be at least SERIOUSLY DOUBTED -- but even if we PRETEND it was murder -- SHOULDN'T GOD'S OPINION, RULE? GOD's opinion, not the state's. NOT ours. But, no one in the abortion debate even CARES about God's opinion. The prolifers want a LAW. So they don't care about consulting GOD, only CAESAR. That's what the Jews did, when they opted for freeing Barabbas, but not the Christ. The "free choice" people also don't CARE about what GOD THINKS, for they make all their arguments in terms of the woman's choice. NOT GOD's CHOICE.

So if, and it MUST be true, that it's BLASPHEMOUS to give Caesar what God would NOT, where do you draw the line? Are we prepared to go down the road to Nazi Germany yet again? For, the road to tyranny ALWAYS involves a shift TOWARD self-righteous INTERFERENCE with personal freedoms, and ALWAYS starts with hitting on the gross sins. You can track it in history, anywhere you wanna start.

So God's Perspective is first of all Sovereign CREATOR. No other. No competition. But also, His Perspective is, as we have all become privileged to know, TOTAL LOVE. Compassion. Mercy. So, no cruel idea of soul life in a womb, no murder, no sadism, and no blasphemy committed. After all, Bible makes it clear also that not even an ANIMAL is really alive until it independently breathes... Only GOD has the Right-to-Life. So for anyone ELSE to grant rights-to-life, is unavoidable blasphemy, however well-intended.


Now, about whether no-life-in-womb FITS BIBLE in OTHER ways..


But, of course, there is even much more to this doctrine. So, if this Perspective is aptly interpreted, then hermeneutically, a whole lot of RELATED or even UNrelated Bible verses AND THINGS IN LIFE should synergistically FIT when interpreted with this Perspective. For, what we have here is a PARAMETER. Again, We all know God is Truth. Not merely some truth, but INFINITE, ALL TRUTH. So, for TRUTH TO BE TRUTH, it must CONSISTENTLY OPERATE. A TRUTH MUST ALWAYS WORK IN THE SAME ROOT FASHION. So we should see it CONSISTENTLY OPERATE in all SIMILAR contexts. Else, what is called "truth", is NOT. For, "Let God be proved true, though every man a liar." (Romans 3:4.)

So, it now makes SENSE why Bible spends so much time DISTINGUISHING between life which THINKS, and nonthinking (biology can't think); between life which is everlasting, and God's. Technically, ETERNAL, not 'everlasting' life is what we get when born-again: that's God's OWN TYPE of life, which has no beginning and no end. Soul life, by contrast, has no end. The many independent-breath-starts-life passages (most of which use tense or prepositions, as noted above, but often use the language words for breath) focus on these distinctions. So, then there are another whole SLEW of verses which basically COMPARE one type of life to another, from the standpoint of life-most-valuable (with God) is the only one WORTHY of being called "life". This wordplay is most commonly done with the word "spirit", because (for example in 1Jn), if you're not Filled with the Spirit, you're not BREATHING spiritually. It's a dramatic way to wake us up, I guess.

So, since more verses are CLEARER and MORE FITTING as a result of an interpretation, then there's something VALID in the interpretation. Again, the hermeneutical rule to compare Scripture with Scripture, is VITAL. So, let's continue: the universe would not exist until BIRTHED. Big Bang, Gen1:1. Something other than the item itself had to CAUSE the item itself to have an INDEPENDENT 'BREATHING', an independent existence. We know that "Something", is really God. Just because the idea of the universe is 'in' Omniscience, and just because Omnipotence CAN make a universe, doesn't mean the universe ACTUALLY exists.

The Lord seemed to be making a big point of this when He talked to Nicodemus, in John3. Because, He analogizes between PHYSICAL birth, and SPIRITUAL birth, and He's PLAYING on the word SPIRIT, which in both Hebrew AND Greek can also mean, "breath" (ruach, pneuma). So, until there is an EXHALE (this is how my pastor explains the passage), there is no life BEGOTTEN. Big bang. First cry of the baby. [Of course, when you first pull a baby from the mother's womb, the FIRST thing you must do, is CLEAR ITS NOSE so it CAN exhale. (No breathing takes place IN the womb: nostrils are plugged up).] First imputation of Eternal Life by the Holy Spirit into the human spirit HE creates (Titus3:5).

So, to go from purpose to REALITY, there must be an ACT OF WILL. "Believe in the Lord Jesus" it says in Acts 16:31. Belief is always and ONLY, an act of WILL. Choosing. Yes. Consent. Conceiving the Gospel, doesn't make one born. One must WANT to believe. So, to do that, one must one must first CHANGE THE MIND (metanoeo, has no emotional connotation, so "repent" is a misleading translation) about what the PREVIOUSLY-CONCEIVED Gospel, means. So too, for sin (Jas1:13-15). Being tempted, is not sin. Being tempted, requires the 'conception' of an idea God would not 'touch'. But until the person CHANGES HIS MIND about the temptation and WILLS it, it can't be BORN.

See how MUCH MORE SENSE MANY VITAL BIBLE DOCTRINES, once you RECOGNIZE there is no soul life in the womb? Most importantly, the reason why there is no SOUL life in the womb has to do with God's ATTRIBUTES AND SOVEREIGNTY, so has nothing to do with whether stupid people have sex out of wedlock. Yet again, let God be proved true, though every FALSE USE OF SCRIPTURE, a lie. To truncate the USE OF SCRIPTURE to just abortion issues, is NEVER right.

You'll want to check all this out for yourself, of course. And you should. For, the research has RICHES OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT GOD'S NATURE you can NEVER get from the English. Really, it's like getting BILLIONS of dollars. No.. it's BETTER!


"The Prolife Blasphemy" Video Series

An archive & consolidation of brainout's YouTube and Vimeo videos. The descriptions are preserved on the pages along with remastered and consolidated videos.



Introduction

This series must demonstrate why the political "prolife" claim is blasphemous, since the prolifers claim Bible support. Bible opposes what prolifers claim; when you examine what the Bible does say, you reluctantly realize the prolife claim is blasphemous.

Now, that sounds like a condemnation. But the truth is, the issue of when life begins is a political football in pulpits and Bible translations for the past five centuries. Only since 1850 has the actual inspired Bible text been widely available to the common man, to check against the centuries of misteaching.

Thus one is tempted to excuse prolifers, because how could they know of the blasphemy, if it's not taught? Well the problem is, a few pastors such as my own, have correctly taught the BIBLE doctrine that human life only begins at birth. So the fault is dual: one, most pastors aren't studying and teaching Scripture from the original-language texts, and two, the students don't care about what Bible really says in those texts. So the politically-correct MIStranslations, have been popular.

But that mistranslation trend is changing, here in the 21st century. Only 30 years ago, there were few Bible translations, which would dare to correctly say the BIBLE doctrine that you are not human until BORN, because at that moment God sovereignly and personally creates your SOUL. But here in 2008, in my BibleWorks software -- which pastors purchase -- 30% of the English translations correctly translate the relevant verses, 10-30% of the time. So a) there is some awareness of the error, and willingness to admit it, but b) the SAME HEBREW PHRASE is mistranslated the majority of the time -- clear proof that political games are being played. The word "word" is always translated the same, so why not "from birth"? Well, you know why...

There are hundreds of these verses in the OT, because God is very adamant on how only HE makes you at BIRTH, never before. Every such verse has the same Hebrew phrases, so they should be translated the same way, each time. But they are not. For when "womb" is in a verse, apparently the translating committees for the Bible in question, get nervous. Less nervous today than 30 years ago, but still enough to cause confusion.

GIST: God makes you a "you" at birth, and no one else makes you BUT Him. That's the Bible's constant refrain, and it demonstrates His Absolute Sovereign Love. So the Bible's perspective isn't about abortion, but about God's Personal Creative Act of making YOU at birth. Obviously, though, since that is true, then a) you cannot be evolved, and b) fetal tissue is not human UNTIL born, because c) what makes that tissue HUMAN, is a SOUL God creates.

So in this video series, we'll go through these verses, so you can see for yourself what BIBLE says, versus the mistranslations. It will be a slog to go through all the verses. You will end up learning some Hebrew and Greek as a result: the words are not hard to learn, and will be repeated hundreds of times, so you will find the process rather easy. But you'll have to go through all the videos. And ask GOD, about what you are learning.

I already did some webpages on this topic, but they need to be redone; the videos will go into much more detail than the webpages, since in the pages I only categorize the verses; but the videos will show them. The header webpage for these, is Caveat4.htm.

I'm adopted, so obviously I'm not pro-abortion. In fact, the problem here is that Christians are aborting the Word, and making Christianity into a mockery, giving yet more cause for people to hate God and the Bible, Romans 2 indictment. Upshot of the videos will be to demonstrate that the BIBLICAL position is to be pro-GOD's choice, and leave Caesar out of it.


Talk 2any Jew/reader of Aramaic 2verify hara means BE PREGNANT, not 'conceive'+read Num11:12, Job15:35,Ps7:14,Isa33:11,59:4,13

Now think: a sin isn't a sin until BORN. To CONCEIVE of it, as noted above, is but temptation.

Sheesh. Prolifers really don't know Bible at all, and spit on God by lying against His Word.


Outline

A for "ALERTS". Certain concepts and Bible verses even in translation should ALERT you to the fact that the "prolife" position blasphemes God.

  1. Concepts: just a few of these are listed, to aid one's thinking. As you think them over, you'll realize many other ideas alert you to the fact that there is no soul life in a womb.
    1. No baby breathes in a womb. If it's not breathing, it's not alive. The first breath taken is outside the womb, when the fetus' nostrils are cleared -- for they are plugged up, in a womb. We don't consider a fetal kangaroo or kitten to be alive until born, and even have the phrase, "born dead" -- taken from the Bible, by the way -- so why suddenly are humans considered alive in utero? Oh, it's an old pagan myth. More about that, will be in "B", below.
    2. Life is an INDEPENDENCE. Death is not. Death occurs when the soul leaves the body. Everyone knows that. So until there is a soul IN a body, it's not alive -- separation of soul and body is the definition of death. So prior to birth, no soul either. Hence the fetal tissue is not alive. It is developing into life, but until birth is not itself alive.
    3. God would be a sadist to put a soul in a womb, since then all the developing fetal parts, would be felt by a conscious soul, trapped in there, with no or insufficient brain to process any will. (The brain is the last to develop, as the skeletal cranial cavity is not hardened enough until birth, so that the fetus can exit the birth canal.)
    4. God would be a murderer, since every year thousands of spontaneous abortions occur, especially in developing countries, owing to poor nutrition, inherited disease, and other factors.
    5. Christ could not stay sinless if His Soul existed inside a womb, so there would be no salvation if soul life was in a womb. In order to stay sinless, He has to have a BRAIN, which can process His WILL as a human being, and He has to have INDEPENDENCE. In the womb, no fetus has independence; it is at the beck and call of the mother's emotions and will. So Christ could not stay sinless, as when Mary sinned, it would pass onto Him, as He'd have no independent ability to resist it. (Hopefully you know that Mary was not sinless; Catholic Church made up that lie hundreds of years later; Bible records her as sinning, and even she calls herself a sinner in the Magnificat. See my "Mary Immaculate Blooper" video.)
    6. Bible doesn't call abortion murder, and there have never been civil laws making it murder, until the last 50 years or so. Accordingly, have all the past generations been remiss, not to make a law which prolifers now attempt? Or are the prolifers, in error? When you see Exodus 21:22 in 2d., below, you'll realize why no one in the past tried to make it a civil law for a nation. So then the prolifers, are the ones not reading their Bibles. Catholic Church has always taught against abortion, but it wasn't a law. Yeah, and the Catholic Church correctly translated Exodus 21:22 in its Bibles (covered below).
    7. Now, if it's true (and it is) that you're not human until born, then a MOTHER who might die if she gives birth, is being MURDERED if the fetus is given precedence over the mother. Because, she is alive and HAS a soul. Jewish rabbis will counsel, therefore, that you give precedence to the mother. Ask a rabbi, see for yourself. More on this will be said in "B." section, below.
  2. Bald Bible verses even in translation: again, these are only a few obvious ones. You'll think of many others, as you go through your concordance on the key words, and think over what the ones below, signify. The videos will cover these, but you can just read them even in most translations, and see the import.
    1. Genesis 1:26-27. God decrees that "human" means to be made in God's Image, and God is IMmaterial. So is the SOUL. Therefore you cannot be evolved, since God personally makes you at birth. This is demonstrated in the Genesis video Episode 6c, but you don't even need to see it, just look at any Bible.
    2. Genesis 2:7. Adam doesn't become ALIVE, until God BREATHES LIVES (literal Hebrew, "hayyim") into his NOSTRILS, which means AFTER the body is formed. All this is demonstrated in the Genesis videos, Episodes 6c through the end of 7 for the Hebrew, but even though the English verses mistranslate the PLURAL LIVES as singular "living" or "life", you still can see the ORDER -- body first, and only AFTERwards, is the soul made.
    3. Genesis 25:22. There, Rebekah ASKS GOD what to do about her pregnancy. Model of what we should do. Asking God, not Caesar, to adjudicate the matter...
    4. Exodus 21:22. There, even in translation, you can tell it's a hypothetical court case due to the woman miscarrying, as a result of her trying to stop a fight between her husband and some other person. Bible makes the distinction between whether only the fetus is miscarried (lol the politically-correct Bible translations have problem with that, but even the Douhay-Rheims CATHOLIC Bible correctly translates it as "miscarry"). Or, whether the woman herself is harmed (verse 23). If the latter, it's a CRIMINAL issue for the courts. If only the fetus miscarries, it's NOT criminal, but any damage assessed is to be determined by the woman and her husband. So it's NOT murder, if the fetus aborts, get it?
      • On this verse, the following English Bibles correctly translate, per my BibleWorks collection: NIV/NIB, but only in the note (if your NIV is annotated), "or she has a miscarriage". NASB 1977 (but not later), Douhay-Rheims 1610 (Catholic Bible), Bible in Basic English, New American Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, Revised Standard 1989 and 1952, 1985 Jewish Publication Society Tanakh. By the way, the Latin Online Vulgate seems to get it right, too. Non-English Bibles tend to copy whatever English Bible they used as a translation device, rather than going by the original-language texts (i.e., French Bible Jerusalen copies from the English Jerusalem Bible). By contrast, check out the Spanish Reina-Valera (1909, 1960 and 1989, 1995, editions are in my BibleWorks collection) -- it gets the translation right.

    5. For, it's Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God, what is God's. This refrain is famous, we all know it, yet we don't think about what it means. Christ gave it as a principle, in Matt22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25 -- three Gospels record it, to stress its importance. Paul covers the same doctrine at length in 1Cor6 (why Christians shouldn't sue each other), 1Tim2, Romans 13-14. Tie-in OT doctrine is the warning not to go to Egypt, and "cursed is the man who makes his flesh, his strength".
    6. Ecclesiastes 12:7 -- body returns to the earth, but the soul returns to God. Only God gives life. So you cannot be alive in the womb, because biological life is not from God, but produced intermediately via pregnancy.
    7. "Time to be born, time to die", Ecc 3:2. So conception isn't birth.
    8. Bible reckons life starting at birth and then ending at death, pan-Bible. You don't see Genesis 5 say, for example, "And Adam caused the CONCEPTION of Seth", etc. Rather, you see Seth's BIRTH being given as the beginning of his LIFE. Everywhere in Bible, the beginning of a person is stated as his BIRTH.
    9. "Born again", John 3, Titus 3:5. Conceiving the Gospel, doesn't save you.
    10. Sin doesn't exist until BORN -- Job 15:35, Psalm 7:14, Isaiah 33:1, 59:4, James 1:15. This should be obvious. Temptation is merely the CONCEPTION of sin, but until you say yes to the temptation, you've not sinned. Man's biology is tainted in Adam, Romans 5:12, 1Cor15:22. So therefore NO soul is in the womb, since there would be no ability to resist temptation from the mother. Again, Christ's Soul couldn't stay sinless if He were trapped in a womb, since every human being BUT Him, is born in fallen Adam, ibid.

    B for "Biology" befuddling us. Biological life has been deemed human life by pagan cultures, and THAT is where we get the idea of life being in the womb.

    1. Pagan cultures attributed magic properties to blood, to the heart, to the head. For example, if you wanted to gain your enemy's brains, you ate his brains; his courage, you ate his heart; his strength, you ate the body part you wanted to make strong. Royalty was given magic blood properties, so it became important that a son from the loins of the king father, be ruling. All these magical ideas didn't make the distinction that to be human was strictly an immaterial act by God, since God was rejected. You can look up any ancient culture you like on the internet, and find these biology-magic ideas in it. So when a fetus was in a womb, it was attributed as being alive.
    2. Under the Mosaic Law, it was never said that a fetus was human, but rabbis in the Talmud began to consider that 40 days after conception, "life" was in the womb. So they would counsel against abortion. After all, God might want to make that fetus come to term, so we shouldn't mess with God's Will. Ask any rabbi today, and you should get an answer similar to the one you just read. So it was an application of Genesis 25:22 and other verses -- the idea being, GOD should decide if a fetus is to be born -- but not actually a Bible doctrine, itself. Not a bad application, though, huh...
    3. Catholic Church developed and grew, by accommodating many pagan beliefs. The goal was to get people to believe in Christ and into the 'fold' of 'mother church', and then hopefully the pagan beliefs would diminish over time. So if people believed that a fetus was alive, well and good. Moreover, Catholic Church had to adopt some of the paganism, to claim that Mary was Immaculate -- see my "Mary Immaculate Blooper" video, because it couldn't explain the Virgin Pregnancy. But precisely BECAUSE Christ wouldn't be Christ until BORN, His Body could be conceived and developed in a womb by means of the Holy Spirit, rather than tainted-in-Adam, human sperm. But they didn't understand all that back then. Now, hundreds of years later, it's too late, I guess, to admit the error.
    4. Modern science also erroneously thinks that human life is strictly biological, having no stomach to admit the IMmaterial nature of thought. Synapses can only be read for electrical impulses; when you cut the halves of the brain or a patient has a stroke, you can tell what parts of the brain affect what sorts of reasoning, memory, emotion, stimuli -- but you cannot read the actual thoughts, themselves. So man today is just as dumb as the pagans, considering himself as Feuerbach quipped, "man is mass in motion, without a soul". This too, contributes to the lie that humanness is strictly biological, so of course a fetus in the womb, would be considered alive.
    5. Evolution hangs on the claim that human life is strictly biological, so that's why it looks at similar arms and legs of monkeys, and thinks we came from them.
    6. It's natural to consider a POTENTIAL life as alive. Ask any mother when the fetus kicks. :)

    C for Corrupted Bible translations. These result from "A" and "B".

    1. Because we ignore the common-sense and Bible warnings in "A", and because we naturally buy into "B", especially since respectable people buy into it, we do "C", corrupt Living Word into dead words. The videos will cover most of these mistranslations, so you see the pattern. It's really bald, how the Bible is mistranslated. Proverbial hand in the cookie jar, like the Vulgate masking the difference between Greek petros and Petra, to pretend that Peter instead of Christ, is the head of the Church -- to pass off its pope myth as valid. (See my "Petros Life" and "Rock is Christ" videos on that; videos walk you through the Bible verses in Hebrew, Greek, Latin and English.)
    2. Political-correctness is the objective of REVERSING what Bible says, in the translation of "womb" verses. Again, 30 years ago Bible mistranslation was even worse than today. Especially, the Hebrew phrase "mi beten" and "me rechem" are both mistranslated "from the womb", when instead the Hebrew preposition "min" stresses SEPARATION FROM the object. So "separated from the womb", "away from the womb", "beyond the womb" should always be the translation of that Hebrew. Hebrew preposition "min" is used thousands of times in the OT, and always has a birthing connotation. The stress on separation is important, for example, to understanding why God begins to number the days of Adam, in Genesis 3:22. Isaiah 53 uses the preposition to stress Christ's Humanity and how He was yet beyond-human at the same time, by repeating the preposition and by repeating its SOUND. Scholars know this well, as do pastors. What pastor doesn't stress the BEYOND-HUMAN torture Christ went through, when covering Isaiah 52:14? "Beyond" is Hebrew preposition "min". Dr. Saenz-Badillos of the University of Madrid wrote a book on A History of the Hebrew Language; he covers how "min" developed as a separative, partitive preposition; I got my copy at Amazon. You can also look up "min" in TWOT lexicon (Theological Workbook of the Old Testament), which is also online (as well as in BibleWorks), to see this essential meaning.

        So it's bald politics, to reverse "min" in "womb" verses, by clever truncation to "from the womb": which in English, means from INSIDE. Proper translation should be, "from birth". It will take many videos to go through all these verses.

        Again, today more Bible translations correctly say "from birth" than was true in yesteryear. For example, in a simple string search on "from birth" in the most popular English Bibles, the Hebrew phrase "mi beten" is properly translated 10-30% of the time as "from birth" in NIV/NIB, New Living Translation, Revised Standard, Bible in Basic English, Geneva 1599 Bible, Webster 1833, New American Standard, English Standard Version, 1917 Jewish Publication Society Tanakh, New Jerusalem Bible, even New King James. Compare Psalm 71:6 in different Bibles, to see something of the variance, here. It's typical of the dispersion of translations in the other verses using the very same Hebrew phrase.

        Think about that. The EXACT SAME HEBREW PHRASE, "mi beten" -- literally, "beyond the womb", "separated from the womb", "outside the womb" -- is used well over 16 times in the OT (beten is used a total of 73 times, but not all reference the womb). So then it always means the same thing, as it's a literal physical expression of BIRTH. So then why isn't it always translated the same way? Why sometimes and not others, since in the context the meaning is always the same? After all, you are born or are not. There's no "semantic range", no gray area of interpretation, here.

        A synonym for "beten" in Bible is Hebrew "rechem", which also means "womb". There are at least 12 of these verses (76 total, but not all reference the womb); included among them, is the "womb to tomb" wish of Job (Job 3:11, 10:18), demonstrating that Job wasn't alive until born -- and wishing he'd immediately DIED after birth. In this group is the always-misread Jeremiah 1:5, people forgetting that Omniscient God knows someone before he exists, so instead of reading THAT correctly, they misuse the verse to claim Jeremiah WAS Jeremiah "in" the womb.

        Then there are thousands of birthing references which just use the Hebrew "min", or synonyms, to show when human life begins. Many of these are wordplay, so instead of being translated "born", they are translated in other ways. So of course the videos will have to cover at least some of these other instances, as well; thus you can see the pattern.

    3. So you miss the many verses where God says HE makes you a "you", at birth. This is the main theme in the Bible regarding birth, that you're not alive until God makes you alive. So, then you need to be re-born, spiritually, which God alone also makes. Series' videos will cover these verses. God's Sovereign SELECTION of your existence, upfront and personal at birth, is an important doctrine to know. Unbelievers are also chosen to exist; God wants NO one to go to hell, 2Pet3:9. But you can't know all that, if you don't know that God personally makes you a you AT birth, huh...
    4. Tie-in verses to the difference between biological life and soul life, therefore must be covered. Since most of Christendom is very confused about man's essential TRI-partite nature when saved, versus his DUAL nature if unsaved (never mind clear passages like Hebrews 4 and 1Cor2), videos on this topic are needed. These will be the hardest videos to do, as so few pastors even teach the tri-partite nature of man: human spirit is life/relationship with God, soul life is for other souled creation (humans, and in eternity, angels), and biological life is a kind of house you live in.
    5. Special passages in Job, Psalms, the prophets, Paul, James, and the Lord's statements in the Gospels, will get special videos. These passages use the fact that you are not human until born, to express other doctrines or appreciation. For example, Christ doesn't say you must be conceived again to be saved, in John 3; because, conception is not life. James says that sin has to be born, too. Paul likens our current status to a fetus, waiting to BE born, in Romans 8 and elsewhere. Job wishes he'd never been born -- "from womb to tomb", as my pastor quipped, when exegeting Job. David marvels that God would decree his birth, noting that his body is only a dead house, in Psalm 139 -- which of course is horribly mistranslated, see my "Don't Abort My Word". Some of the prophets also have special passages on the topic. Videos will cover some of them, enough to convey the pattern of Bible exposition.
    6. So-called "problem passages", like Luke 1:15 and Elizabeth's phrasing of the 'baby leapt' will get videos, too. Frankly, once you see the previous videos, you'll understand most of these passages are not problems. The problems, are the people eisegeting them. ("Eisegesis" is a fancy term for fancying something in Bible, which isn't there.)

    D for Deus Decides.

    1. At root, the issue of when you become a you, is solely a matter of Sovereign Divine Decision. After all, the soul lives forever and therefore God has been 'listening' to it since eternity past. Every breath you take is courtesy of God, for He holds everything together; there is no automatic pilot. Your free existence and free will must be ordained, or you never will exist in the first place. Lots of Bible verses on this, and some of them -- enough to establish the rhetorical pattern the Bible uses -- will be covered in the videos. Really, this is the heart of the issue: GOD must decide. What makes the prolife position blasphemous is that prolifers want to allocate that role to Caesar.
    2. It's a juridical issue, too: a fetus is not alive, so not guilty of anything, even though tainted in its biology, with Adam's sin. That's why it must be BORN: if born, it BECOMES a juridical issue, will God make it alive, or not? Just as in Genesis 2:7, God could have stopped at forming Adam's body. In which case, Adam wouldn't have ever become "Adam" (clever wordplay, since adamah means earth, so the Earth Man made out of the Earth).
    3. So the issue for us, is to be pro- God's Choice. If a woman loses a fetus, then it was God's Choice that the fetus never come to term. Trust God to have good reasons for that, since HE has to live with the decision since eternity past. If a woman is sterile, same thing. If a woman is pregnant but doesn't want to be, well -- what does God think about that? Of course, the unbeliever doesn't ask the question, but like Rebekah did in Genesis 25:22, we Christians sure should.

    E for Election Time: what to do with this information?

    1. Talk to God, obviously. Life comes from God, so God has the right to say if a fetus will be a human being.
    2. Abortion is not murder, because one has to be a human being, alive, to be murdered; in a womb, there is no life yet, whether animal or human.
    3. So don't campaign for Federal Laws to make abortion murder. That's giving to Caesar, what is God's; it's also a lie against the Bible which says abortion is NOT murder. Were abortion murder, then the Mosaic Law would have verses saying so. Yet rather, you have Exodus 21:22, as mentioned in "B", above.
    4. So don't conclude that Bible is pro-abortion, either.
    5. Best of all, learn how God intimately chooses your own existence, whether you ever believed in Christ or not. For the soul was ransomed by Christ, and lives forever. Your choice, WHERE that forever-life after this body ends, will be.





b-out Prolife Blasphemy Vids

BIBLE says you're not human until BORN, when GOD (not your biology), creates your soul and gives your body, its first BREATH. No one but God is the author of life. This is the root reason how salvation could be accomplished, and why it is permanent. Learn when life begins, or you will never understand or feel secure about, your salvation.

To keep believers unsettled, Satan authored the prolife movement about 30+ years ago. It is sourced in the pagan myth that biology is magical. Sadly, Christians practice that same pagan belief, totally oblivious to what Bible actually says. Their punishment is delusion.

Yet some pastors (like mine) have been proving for YEARS that soul life is not imputed until birth. But the old Catholic heresy (to make Mary sinless) that life begins at conception, still lingers.

By the time you go through all the videos in this series -- most of which, due to length, are LINKS in the video descriptions -- you'll see that proof from Bible for yourself.

The extensive exegesis will become easy to understand, as you'll see it onscreen from BibleWorks.

Political coverup governs 'womb' verses: they are reverse-translated.

So prolifers politick on abortion, showing their Rev 17 'bent'. Thus you you know they are satanic, too.


PB1a The Prolife Blasphemy Series (PB)

Prolife Blasphemy series, intro. I AM ADOPTED. These videos do not advocate abortion, but rather demonstrate what BIBLE says: that you are NOT HUMAN until born, because there is NO SOUL LIFE in the womb. Over 500 verses in Bible to go through, so this video series will take over years to finish. Proof before your eyes in the original-language Bible texts, will end up being the major focus, because you should see the proof in Bible for yourself; but the first group of videos are introductory.

See links below for sample Word searches which demonstrate the Bible doctrine of God's Choice. You'll need a thesaurus so you can search Bible on the synonyms of these keyverbs.

Future videos in this series will demonstrate the webpage content via Bible.

Associated Blog entry, which contains all the above links:

Lies must be accounted, as must truth. The purpose is NOT to condemn, but to disclose. We are all mistaken on things, so the best way to learn how to correct failures in the SELF, is to witness them in others. That's what they teach you at West Point. How much more important to know, for the Christian Soldier?


PB2c Prolife Proved Satanic

Here we see why prolifers can't read Bible and thus politicize abortion. We are all pawns for Satan & Co. Okay, so how to get out of that? Surely God is not PRO-abortion, is He?

CORRECTION: at about 4 minutes, I said Rev was written in 96AD, which is the commonly-taught WRONG answer. I didn't know the RIGHT answer until 2015, when I learned the Bible METERS its text, with one of the meter functions being a DATELINE. John DATELINES Rev1 and 17 as 88 AD. Which better fits the facts we now know, about Domitian.


PB2b Prolife Disproved by 'breath' verses

What a surprise: even English Bible translations quickly prove Prolife a lie: all I had to do was search on "breath" in English Bibles. For Bible says even in translation, that you're not alive until and unless you are BREATHING.

That's good, because if a fetus WAS alive, it would be SCREAMING. Couldn't be more obvious, since a fetus has its NOSTRILS plugged, whether animal fetus, or human.

Search also on "breathed", "breathing", "wind", "spirit" -- for the latter two words are often mistranslations of "breathe". See for yourself, even in any translation you care to pick.

False doctrine always maligns God, glorifies man, is the product of appallingly poor Bible 'scholarship', and ALWAYS FAILS COMMON SENSE. What could be more common-sense, but that to be alive, you must be BREATHING?


PB2a Prolife Disproved by 'breath' verses

Not breathing? NOT ALIVE, says Bible. No fetus of any kind, animal or human, breathes. Hundreds of verses in Bible tell you that aliveness means BREATHING. Here, we see a deft 7 verses which also show you how animals only have ONE type of life (biological) versus man, who has MULTIPLE lives required, in order to even be alive.

How embarrassing. Bible says you're not alive until breathing. No fetus breathes. No animal fetus, no human fetus. So no fetus is alive. So no fetus is breathing in any womb of ANY kind. Hence the prolife claim is completely shattered, by the very Bible the prolifers claim supports their cause.


PB3a Be Pro GOD's Choice

The prolife movement is almost the greatest among the many Christian blasphemies against God since Church began. So again, there's no call for one Christian sect to call another evil: for the EXTREME evil of prolife spans all Christian denominations. Yeah, Satan dupes us all; the COMMON SENSE "if it's not breathing, it's not alive" is foreign to us. So it's impossible to be 'prolife' defined by Christians, and spiritual, at the same time. No breath in us, Psalm 135:17. What hypocrites we are.

NOTE: my videos aren't in blip.tv anymore. They don't want Christians, so cancelled my videos. But they are here and in vimeo, as noted in the video description, and in the next video. Do the Word searches, cuz there are HUNDREDS of verses on this topic of how YOU ARE NOT YOU UNTIL GOD MAKES YOU AT BIRTH, GIVING YOU YOUR FIRST BREATH. Many pastors know this, too. Mine did. But those who want political power and money, won't teach Bible properly.


PB3b Prolife Blasphemy Series (PB) Download 'album'

This video covers three things:

  1. The promised download vids in the Prolife Blasphemy series, are now off bliptv, and on Vimeo, here: http://vimeo.com/album/2589297.
  2. How to make a displayed webpage more readable.
  3. Short reminder about how Prolife is blasphemous, and why. I will be making a lot more videos proving that fact FROM BIBLE DIRECTLY, but the videos will be in Vimeo, in the displayed album (see #1 above for the link). For the vids are much clearer in Vimeo (which specializes in HD), than Youtube. And, you can download them without special addins or other hassle. But in Youtube, when new vids are posted to Vimeo, I'll make a short announcing video in Youtube.

Fall, 2008: to counter the massive disinformation re what Bible says about when 'life' begins, I created a 'Prolife Blasphemy' video series (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL144D716E521647D1). It proves from Bible that you're not human.. until BORN. Series will eventually cover 500 verses, beginning in Genesis 2:7. There and ever after, God says He and no one else makes you; He does that at birth (not before), Genesis 2:7. You are not your biology. So you cannot be evolved. 'Human' is the God-made SOUL, and your body is a house, not alive, Psalm 139:13-17 (mistranslated, of course). For it's a Divine Juridical Issue: if the body exiting the womb cannot independently sustain a soul, God won't create one (again, Gen 2:7). Wouldn't be fair. For God is neither murderer, nor sadist. Were soul life in a womb, it would be AWARE; developing body parts would be painful; the person would be trapped. Granted, Bible's been mistranslated to cover up this vital doctrine of ONLY God makes you human, at birth -- else you couldn't be SAVED -- yet why haven't we learned it in the God-breathed Hebrew and Greek? It matters to know what Real Bible says, given that for eons the human race ascribed mythological properties to the body. Still does. Every horror and supernatural movie ever made, trumpets magical body ideas: why do you think it's called the Holy Grail? Yeah, Christ is irrelevant, the MINDLESS blood in His Body, did the saving! Wow. Bible disagrees: 'By means of Truth Knowledge, He makes Righteous', Isaiah 53:11 (b'dato yatsdiq, Hebrew). SO HIS THINKING PAID FOR SINS.. that kind of circulation, the 'blood' of Bible in His Soul, Matthew 4:4! So it's not as if the Jews don't know. David Duke depends on their (rightly) saying a 'golem' (fetus) has no soul. Even he advertises a true Bible doctrine (for bad reasons), yet we don't investigate what Bible says? What is wrong with us? We POLITICK to Caesar, instead of PRAY to God. Hence this series. (I don't favor abortion, see Episode 1a and 9i of the Prolife Blasphemy series on Youtube.) Most importantly, all Bible doctrines about humanity -- especially Christ's -- come from this one: THE ONLY AUTHOR OF LIFE IS GOD. AT BIRTH. That's Bible; that's why you can be saved, despite the corrupted FLESH. And if you don't get this, then everything else Bible says, will be mud to you. After all, the Lord didn't say, 'you must be conceived again', did He (see John 3). He did say, Hebrews 10:5, on the very day He was BORN (temporal clauses in Greek tell you that, my pastor spent a lot of time explaining this) -- 'a body You prepared for ME!' So the 'ME' is not the same as the body, huh. So be for or against abortion, and PRAY to God about whatever you think is wrong. Go to the Real Ruler about it. Don't politick to 'caesar', like all the carnal Christians do. And don't you ever call abortion murder, since then you malign GOD and HIS SON and HIS WORD (i.e., in Numbers 5:27, God ORDERED abortion, see Episode 9 proving that in the Bible text, and proof that lexicographers know this -- it shocked them). So, in the Youtube descriptions, certain PB videos are available for download. Hence this album. If you want me to add a video, let me know. Thank you for your time!

Hopefully that will enable me to avoid the trolls. For in Vimeo, if you make stupid or nasty remarks, or remarks full of swear words, I will block you. The Vimeo community is not tolerant of that stuff, so I can't afford to be. If you want to criticise me, fine: do it without swear words, do it WITH substance, and if you're in the mood, do it creatively. Criticism, I love. WILLFUL stupidity, I will no longer tolerate.

Someday when I have time, I'll move the vimeo videos to Youtube. Vimeo is now being snarky, too. But I pay them for the service, and not until I move all the vids to Youtube, will the vimeo subscription, end.


PB4a Isa46:3 and "womb" verses

Here, we see proof that Bible is politically mistranslated to hide its truth that NO SOUL is in the womb. There are many more verses to cover, but Isaiah 46:3 is a handy proof of the politicking. One part of the verse's truth that you aren't human until born is covered up, and the other part isn't covered up. Ooops! Someone forgot to cover it ALL up!

So here in Episode 4, we see the main Bible Hebrew & Greek words for "womb"; and, Bible's SEPARATIVE preposition min (Hebrew) & ek (Greek). These words signify NO SOUL LIFE UNTIL BIRTH. You'll see the lexicons in BibleWorks (software which pastors use), to prove the meaning of the words. So this video is easy, and lays the foundation for the later ones on the mistranslation of verses with the same words in them.

Suggest you also listen to John MacArthur explain the preposition ek as SEPARATIST when he talks about why the Rapture precedes Trib, in the following video: β€’ Video. Listen for "terew ek", at the video's 7:49 (he's citing Rev3:10, beginning at 6:42 in the video). So obviously this SEPARATIST meaning is well known, so no 'scholar' or 'teacher' should ever teach that there is soul life in any womb. No excuse.

In fact, there are hundreds of verses using these prepositions, to stress how only GOD makes you a "you" at BIRTH, not conception; famously, Isaiah 53 uses the preposition to stress how Christ BIRTHS our salvation on the Cross, beginning at Isa52:14. For Bible's perspective is Ownership, GOD as the Sole Originator of Life: principle that God Personally selects you to BECOME a human being at birth. So scratch evolution, for your soul is made directly BY God; scratch goofy Calvinism's claim that God doesn't use His Foreknowledge, since Every Human Being is Selected to Exist by God, Personally At Birth.

That's the Bible's focus. Not, abortion. Hence subsequent Episodes will display the other "womb" verses, to further document that focus. Again, I'm adopted, so I don't advocate abortion. But it's not murder, because No Soul LIfe Exists Until God Personally Creates It At Birth. See for yourself, from the live Bible words.


PB5a Psalm139:16 proves Prolifers Carnal

Psalm 139 is one of the most-mistranslated chapters in Bible. Verse 16, however, is often correctly translated, and even Strong's weak lexicon correctly shows that a 'golem' -- Hebrew word for anything still in the womb, especially in the embryo stage -- is what David is talking about. That, while he was IN the womb, none of his ordained-by-God 'days', YET EXISTED.

Can't be more obvious that David is saying -- as does the rest of Bible -- that YOU are not a YOU until you are BORN.

Just as, sin isn't sin until it's born, James 1:15. Just as, conceiving the Gospel doesn't save you, John 3:3-7,16, Romans 10:10 (mouthing didn't save the Jews, BELIEVING was needed).

Later videos will show the full corrected translation of Psalm 139 -- you will be shocked at how the Bible is aborted, in translation. So if you can't wait for the videos, search on 'Don't Abort My Word' in NoWombLife.htm. The interim corrected translation of verses 11-16, is there.

It's really important to understand that what constitutes 'human', is immaterial. That's why you are not evolved, but directly and personally created by God AT BIRTH, pattern of Genesis 2:7 (see my Genesis video series on that verse, at SatStrat2.htm#GenesisVids).

That's also why your salvation cannot be lost, and MUST be permanent: because, the real you is your SOUL, and it lives forever -- somewhere. Where, is determined by whether you ever once believed in Christ. If yes, you go to heaven. Since your soul cannot die, you cannot lose your salvation, either.

Thirdly, your spiritual life is lived IN your soul, not in your body. Your body is tainted with Adam's sin nature. It dies, but you do not. So to be spiritual, you must learn and live on Bible, since a SOUL lives on INSTRUCTION.

Okay, but what about abortion? Does that mean you just run out and get one? No, it means you run to GOD and ask HIM for HIS CHOICE in the matter, since you don't know if He WANTS that fetus to come to term so He can CREATE a soul for it. See, abortion is God's Choice, never Caesar's, Exodus 21:22. Because, the real you IS your soul, and lives forever.


PB5b Pagan Origin of Prolife (Bowel!) Movement

Prolifers, like evolutionists and pagans before them, assign a magical property to human biology, as if the biology, were itself life. Bible spends a lot of time, starting in Genesis 2:7, refuting that pagan notion. God says HE ALONE is the author of your humanity, which is your SOUL, which HE MAKES at birth. There are hundreds of verses on this topic, as paganism was widespread during the writing of Scripture. In this video series, I've already provided about 100 of the verses within the videos, and in their description links to videos too long to post in Youtube.

But the prolifer is just as irrational, evil, and unbelieving as any pagan, wanting to assign to reflex motility, a magical property of life. Thus he is like a dog returning to its vomit, per 2Peter 2:17-22 -- you were an unbeliever, but now as a carnal Christian, you go back to pagan ideas.

So of course no prolifer can read the many Bible verses already provided in this Prolife Blasphemy series, won't take the time to actually STUDY the issue. Pity but do not imitate them. They will be very embarrassed at the Bema for trampling the Word of God underfoot, ABORTING it, Hebrews 10:29 (in context from 10:1, especially verses 5, 15-17).


PB5c Job 10:19 proves Prolifers Carnal

How embarrassing, that Prolifers can't even read Bible when it's well translated and says YOU DON'T EXIST in the womb! Here, the verse is Job 10:19, and even the KJV gets it right!

My pastor taught this verse, taught for over 40 years that there is no soul life in the womb because ONLY GOD CREATES THE SOUL AND HE DOES IT AT BIRTH. Now, if you want to know more about that, you are free to order lessons without anyone asking you for money, at rbthieme.org. I'm not allowed to upload the lessons, sorry. (Too many people have tried to MAKE money off what he teaches, so they have to seal the teaching with copyright protection.)

His Job lessons are in 1985 Ephesians (Series number 412?), lessons 249-266.


PB5d Hebrews 10:5 proves Prolifers, Pagan

Your BODY is not you. It was PREPARED for you though, as this verse proves. 'Prepared' really means first healed and then constructed, due to Adam's sin.

In Christ's case, first Mary's sin-tainted 23 chromosomes had to be 'healed' via meiosis and polar body (a natural biological process); but then the Holy Spirit created an added 23 perfect chromosomes, and added them (rather than the natural process of sperm and egg). THAT is 'the immaculate conception', and it's purely biological. A house being prepared, just like David explains in Psalm 139:13.

Prepared for. NOT, the real you. NOT, alive. Rather, an organic machine. For YOU, are a SOUL. Made alive by God at birth, just as Christ here supernaturally exclaims when He is BORN, quoting from Psalm 40:6 in the LXX.

All Bibles translate this verse fairly well. So there is no excuse for believing you are a you, until BORN.


PB5e Hebrews 10:5 proves Prolifers, Pagan

This Episode covers how Psalm 40:6 is quoted by Christ, at birth (supernaturally, since no baby can talk), from the LXX. (So here again we see that the KJVO who claim the LXX was invented in the 3rd century AD by Origen, mean to trash the New Testament, too.)


PB6a Psalm 139:13 proves Prolifers, Liars

How embarrassing, that prolifers must lie about the Hebrew and Greek of Psalm 139:13, to advance their claim of life in the womb. You'll see proof of the lie in two translations. Oddly enough, the KJV is NOT one of the liars! Of course, the saddest thing is the layman can't know that Psalm 139:13 was deliberately mistranslated to cover up what God's saying: HE ORDERED YOUR COVERING HOUSE, aka the BODY. So notice Satan's punning: God's WORD is covered up in a verse about your covering!

Satan makes many puns like this in Bible mistranslations. For example, in order to denounce God in translation, he takes Genesis 3:11's nagadth, which means to denounce, and has it mistranslated, 'tell', making it look like God didn't 'tell' Adam and the woman they were naked! (My pastor had a lot of fun explaining that one, in his 1977 Genesis series.)

I like to collect satanic mistranslation puns. There are hundreds of them. He does the same thing with the original (and translated) text of the Koran, and Book of Mormon -- STILL punning on the Bible! One day I'll put a large sampling of them all in new video series, but not right now!


PB6c Psalm 139:13 proves Prolifers, Liars

Corrected translation of Psalm 139:13 showing David's wordplay on the Jewish holiday of Succoth (Booths) = HOUSE = BODY = WILDERNESS = pregnancy. David now of course is OUTSIDE the womb, so is walking INSIDE his house, in the 'wilderness' of this life, so it's very witty. Wait until you see verse 17!


PB6e Psalm 139:14's Hebrew exposes Prolife Political PALAver

This Episode shows the anatomy of a Reformation mistranslation becoming a political football, four centuries later. A simple confusion over two Hebrew verbs which sound alike, coupled with the coverup mistranslation in Psalm 139:13, render the much-beloved Psalm 139:14, a political hot potato. So of course the gorgeous meaning of David's tying his situation to God's Works in EGYPT, is covered up in favor of the goofy idea that the fetus is referenced. LOL Satan misses no chance to 'cover' the naked Word of God!


PB6c Psalm 139:13 proves Prolifers, Liars

Prolife Blasphemy Series. Corrected translation of Psalm 139:13 showing David's wordplay on the Jewish holiday of Succoth (Booths) = HOUSE = BODY = WILDERNESS = pregnancy. David now of course is OUTSIDE the womb, so is walking INSIDE his house, in the 'wilderness' of this life, so it's very witty. Wait until you see verse 17! See descriptions to 6a and 6d for more info.


PB6d Psalm 139's aborted in translation!

This is a Messianic marching song, to encourage the soldiers to remember their place in history. It is an 'answer' to the Song of Moses in Deut 32, especially Deut 32:8. So it is NOT about abortion politics, okay? Messiah's Coming has been aborted from the translations!

To show all that, I have to retranslate the entire Psalm to show its Hebrew marching cadence. Along the way, you'll see that many of the words in the Psalm relate to specialized PROPHETIC CONCEPTS in the Mosaic Law forecasting the birth of MESSIAH, and especially, the 2Sam7 promise to David.

So it has ZERO to do with today's abortion issues, except for the wonder that God could have 'aborted' the prophecy of Messiah, given Israel's unfaithfulness! So this video merely introduces the marching quality of the Hebrew, etc. Future videos will back up the claims made. It will take awhile to make them, perhaps six months or more.


PB7a Psalm 139:15, Messiah's Womb

You were never in your mother's womb, but you were always in Messiah's womb, as this verse proves.

So this is an anti-abortion verse, but.. which type of abortion?

David's amazed that God decreed his EXISTENCE. In short, David didn't exist, and apart from God's Decree, would never exist. So God could have ABORTED David, before he even began; could have aborted him, post-death. But instead, saved him, knitting him in MESSIAH's womb. Yes, knitting, for the verb raqam here is the same verb as used for making the Temple veil. Yes, Messiah's womb, for the noun seter is a famous Psalm term for God as Hiding Place.

All this is aborted from the translation, of course, in favor of pagan politics giving Caesar some right to determine life! See what SEWAGE the prolife movement is, aborting the SALVATION meaning of this verse?


PB7b Psalm 139:15, Messiah's Womb

For those of you in seminary, etc.: do a search on the ROOT for each Hebrew word, pan-OT, so you can see how Bible uses each word, especially for kahad and seter, to see the semantic range. Then, focus on how the words apply to David during his life, and how he uses them in the other Psalms. For Isaiah 53 specially keys off DAVID's use of the words in Psalm 139:15, esp. in Isa52:13 (yaskil, meod), 52:14 (toaro), 53:2 (toar), 3 (m'seter),6 (nirp'lanu),11 (beda'ato), 12 (tahat). Really, Isaiah keys off all of Psalm 139:13-17. I didn't know that until just looking at the Psalm, so my Isaiah 53 videos don't reference it. Yet.

It might be some months before I can make more videos on Psalm 139:15's Hebrew words.

Gist of the verse: You were never in your mother's womb, but you were always in Messiah's womb, as this verse proves.

So this is an anti-abortion verse, but.. which type of abortion?

David's amazed that God decreed his EXISTENCE. In short, David didn't exist, and apart from God's Decree, would never exist. So God could have ABORTED David, before he even began; could have aborted him, post-death. But instead, saved him, knitting him in MESSIAH's womb. Yes, knitting, for the verb raqam here is the same verb as used for making the Temple veil. Yes, Messiah's womb, for the noun seter is a famous Psalm term for God as Hiding Place.

All this is aborted from the translation, of course, in favor of pagan politics giving Caesar some right to determine life! See what SEWAGE the prolife movement is, aborting the SALVATION meaning of this verse?


PB8 Is God a Murderer?

Worldwide, posit that at least 100 million couples in this 7-billion-human planet, will have sex today. Next, posit that only 10% of the women, will become pregnant as a result. So that means 10 million fetuses will 'begin', today.


PB9a Num5:27, God orders abortion?

Shocker passage, Numbers 5:27-28. I really wish I didn't have to do this Episode. Gotta show you the Hebrew, in later videos of this Episode!


PB9b Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

Continued from 9a, intro to this shocking passage. 9c et seq. will launch into the Hebrew of the mistranslated words.


PB9c Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

This 9c focuses on how translators try to hide the fact that the Hebrew (and Greek) say the woman's WOMB will blow up. The word WOMB is covered up, usually with 'abdomen' or 'belly', in translation. This video shows the many bad translations.

Next, a quick Word search on the Hebrew word beten=womb, proves that in 72 other verses, Hebrew beten is properly translated as 'womb', but -- not here. Why? They are AFRAID for you to learn what Bible says in Numbers 5:27! Political correctness! In preference to learning the Word of God!

See, this is what makes 'prolife' evil. They ABORT the LIVING WORD of God in translation! Sooner or later you'll have to decide where you stand: with what the Word says, however politically-incorrect -- or with what people say, James 4:4?

Notice that you don't have to become pro-abortion to be AGAINST, aborting the Word of God...


PB9d Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

How the word 'swell' is mistranslated to cover up the fact that Numbers 5:27 is a God ordered PUNISHMENT of abortion, naturally or supernaturally administered via the priest who has to curse the water the woman drinks. Drinking the water, induces it. Translators know this. One even speculated that the woman was already pregnant at the time she drinks the water, as you'll see at the end of 9h. But can you see all that in translation? Oh no! It's covered up with really silly language, like 'swell'!

Political correctness plagues Bible translation. Because, Christians are very legalistic, petty, mean-minded and dominate translation committees, so that an honest translator is never respected. Oh no: gotta play footsie with those who want to impose their politics, over the Word! Lots of Rev17 harlots, now!

So this 9d has to begin outside Bible lexicons, with the GREEK translation of the Hebrew, since the Hebrew lexicons won't directly admit that tsava means to blow up and then blow out! Had to go to Tufts University for the Greek, to demonstrate the validity of that Hebrew meaning.


PB9e Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

How the word 'waste away' is mistranslated to cover up the fact that Numbers 5:27 is a God ordered PUNISHMENT of water-induced abortion -- 'waste away' is really 'fall', meaning the fetus falling OUT of the womb, never alive.

Translators know this. But it's covered up with 'waste away'! Despite the fact that the other 400+ times the same verb is used, it's properly translated as 'fall', 'cast out', etc.!


PB9f Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

Continued, on how the word 'waste away' is mistranslated to cover up the fact that Numbers 5:27 is a God ordered PUNISHMENT of water-induced abortion.

Translators know this. But it's covered up with 'waste away'! Despite the fact that the other 400+ times the same verb is used, it's properly translated as 'fall', 'cast out', etc.!


PB9g Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

Did you know babies come out from thighs? Well, if you looked at the mistranslation in Numbers 5:27 and certain other key verses, that's what you're told Bible says! Imagine the field day that atheists have with THAT?

Yeah, except prudish translators cover up what Bible says. So here and in 9h, we'll see what 'thigh' really is. How blatant the mistranslation and coverup, too.

For Numbers 5:27 is a God ordered PUNISHMENT of abortion, naturally or supernaturally administered via the priest who has to curse the water the woman drinks. Drinking the water, induces it. Translators know this. One even speculated that the woman was already pregnant at the time she drinks the water, as you'll see at the end of 9h. But can you see all that in translation? Oh no! It's covered up with really silly language, like 'thigh'!

So at the end of 9h, the translation is corrected, and surprise surprise, only ONE of dozens of Bible translations, had the courage to show at least something of what the verse means...


PB9h Num 5:27, God orders abortion?

Link to Luke 8 video is here: β€’ Faith Without Works Poop II: Luke 8 ...

Continued on Numbers 5:27, how prudish translators cover up what Bible says. But also, how some translators have HONEST COURAGE to tell you (albeit still fuzzed over) what the verse really says.

For Numbers 5:27 is a God ordered PUNISHMENT of abortion, naturally or supernaturally administered via the priest who has to curse the water the woman drinks. Drinking the water, induces it. Translators know this.

TWOT speculated that the woman was already pregnant at the time she drinks the water, as you'll see at the end of this 9h.

But can you see all that in translation? Oh no! It's covered up with really silly language, like 'thigh'!

So at the end of 9h, the translation is corrected, and surprise surprise, only ONE of dozens of Bible translations, had the courage to show at least something of what the verse means.. and we see the corrected translation.. a God-ordered CONTINUAL abortion.


PB9i Num 5:27 is NOT a license for abortion!

This shouldn't have to be said, but just because God ordered abortion for infidelity under the Mosaic Law, doesn't mean you should get one if that's why you're pregnant. As always, the issue is GOD's Choice, which is what Numbers 5:27-28 assert. It was solely GOD's choice to make the 'water' cause abortion or not, as the priest had to explain. For, only GOD causes life at birth. So an abortion meant that no fetus would exit the womb and have a soul created; so no life would be created. It was a punishment, abortion. Not, an escape.

Prolifers are fundamentally evil because they play Revelation 17 politics with abortion, when only GOD has the right to life. They abort the Bible when they do this, giving to Caesar a right belonging only to God.

But the one who uses the fact that abortion is not murder as an excuse to get one, is also aborting Scripture. For what does Scripture say, in over 300 verses? ONLY GOD creates life. So if you're pregnant, you seek GOD's opinion. How do you know if He wants that fetus to come to term? So don't imitate the prolifers by being your own god. Seek His Opinion, instead.

Be pro-God's Choice. And keep Caesar out of it, pro or con. Because the life, is God's. The decision, is God's. So seek GOD's ruling, and you'll do well. Don't seek His Ruling, and Colossians 3:25, Gal 6:7, Hebrews 10:29, and many like penalty verses -- will smack you upside the head.


PB10a Exodus 21:22, Abortion is not murder!

Direct evidence in the BIBLE's original Hebrew, translated Greek and Latin Vulgate, and at least 8 English Bible translations (including ones Catholics use) -- that GOD says the fetus is not human. So when it aborts, no murder has been committed.

So any Presidential or other 'Christian' candidate claiming that abortion is murder, should be ostracized, by Christians. For that person cannot be competent in secular reading, if he's not competent in BIBLE reading.

Pox on prolifers. They all ABORT Christ's Word.


PB10c Exodus 21:22, Abortion is not murder!

Conclusion for now: background exegesis to explain the direct evidence in BIBLE's original Hebrew, translated Greek and Latin Vulgate, and at least 8 English Bible translations (including ones Catholics use) -- that GOD says the fetus is not human. So when it aborts, no murder has been committed.


PB11a Are prolifers more holy than CHRIST in Heb 10:5?

They sure think they are more holy, for CHRIST SAID on the DAY HE WAS BORN that HE was not the BODY. Where? Hebrews 10:5, which is reviewed in this video.

I'll do later ones on the exegesis, but this 11a is ONLY about the obvious fact that prolifers don't give a flip about Bible, but are using fetus issue to gain political power, and are as such all Revelation 17 POLITICAL CHRISTIANITY HARLOTS.

That is why DT is winning. Once you reject the lie, you get strong delusion, 2Thess2:11.

The whole PB series starts here: β€’ 2 SatStrat Prolife is Anti-Semitic

There are over 500 verses in Bible which explain why a) life begins at BIRTH (Gen 2:7 so you are not evolved), and hence fetal tissue is a house (Ps139 but it's vilely mistranslated to cover up the truth), etc. If I live long enough, I'll try to show all of them. But a fair amount of the salient verses are already done. See also http://www.brainout.net/NoWombLife.htm on Psalm 139's corr trans, with Hebrew annotates, so you can start to see that 3300 years of KNOWING abortion is not murder, are being denied now by Caesar-hungry 'prolifers' -- it's a sham, k?

In the video here, I talk about Psalm 139:16, and made a video about it showing the Hebrew earlier, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn8_lhMC_LM&index=15&list=PL144D716E521647D1

Fuller exegesis of Psalm 139 is in NoWombLife.htm

UPSHOT: the BIBLE's point is, GOD ALONE makes you a you, at BIRTH. That's why you can be saved, why you're not evolved, why abortion has NO PLACE in secular law. And for 3300 years, from Moses forward, abortion was indeed, never called murder. Since all the 'prolife' folks who WANT to call it murder to GET political power of CAESAR, and are even willing to endorse OBVIOUS IMMORAL LIAR DONALD TRUMP to get that power, clearly they are more than willing to ABORT THE WORD OF GOD. For He doesn't matter to them. BEWARE of ignoring those facts.


PB12 Genesis 2:7 Says Life begins at BIRTH

Genesis 2:7 word for word in the Hebrew, proves life begins AT BIRTH, never before.

Focus of the Genesis videos is just to show the real Hebrew versus all the cockamamie lies said about it. I did not know Genesis was metered when I made this video (before 2008 but I'd have to find the original files to know exactly when).

So you can argue all you like, but you're arguing with GOD, not me. I just show live Bible onscreen. That is a WITNESS function, never teaching.


PB13a Job3:3 says Life Begins At Birth

Prolife liars who won't consult the Bible throw around verses with smug satisfaction that they are proven right, only to be proven wrong BY GOD in the very verses they cite. This is one of those verses, thrown at me just now in twitter (@brainouty, by TicklishAngel).

So here we see how embarrassing it is for a prolifer to get caught NOT READING a verse cited. Don't be like that. LEARN WHAT BIBLE SAYS FIRST so God won't have to embarrass you in convo with someone who actually DOES read it.

Again, I'm not pro-abortion, am adopted. But aborting the Word is a criminal offense, 1Jn5:16 and all skotizw sklerow verses. GOD ALONE MAKES YOU AT BIRTH is the Bible focus, not the tawdry politics before mere Caesar.


PB13b Job3:3 says Life Begins At Birth

Calmer summary of the SEQUENCE to prove prolifers hate Bible, cuz even in translation you can see that conception does not FOLLOW birth, so the translation lies. Why does it lie? Vid goes through that, too.


PB13c Job3:3 says Life Begins At Birth

Focus now on the GREEK to show the Vulgate invents the lie of conception, to further prove prolifers hate Bible, cuz even in translation you can see that conception does not FOLLOW birth, so translations provably lie by using the Vulgate, not God's Word.

Talk 2any Jew/reader of Aramaic 2verify hara means BE PREGNANT, not 'conceive'+read Num11:12, Job15:35,Ps7:14,Isa33:11,59:4,13

Now think: a sin isn't a sin until BORN. To CONCEIVE of it, as noted above, is but temptation.

Sheesh. Prolifers really don't know Bible at all, and spit on God by lying against His Word.


PB 14 PROLIFE PROVEN A 1978 JERRY FALWELL SCAM INVENTION

Just found this PBS Frontline series this am.


PB15, Luke 1:15 and 1:41 prove NO LIFE IN WOMB

Live Bible Greek text proves that translators and hence teachers LIE AGAINST THE BIBLE to claim a 'baby' is in the womb, when the REAL BIBLE says the opposite. Here, you have to see context of Verse 15, to understand verse 41.

Notice the lie in verse 15, reversing the GREEK which says John will be filled ONCE OUTSIDE THE WOMB, to say 'while yet inside'. LYING AGAINST BIBLE!

So too, verse 41 in GREEK says ELIZABETH, not the fetus, is filled with the Spirit, and the FETUS not baby, was caused to 'leap' due to HER being filled; this is called 'reflex motility' in modern biology, check with any OB/GYN.

So you see: JUST AS TEACHERS LIE TO YOU ABOUT WHEN LIFE BEGINS, SPITTING ON CHRIST, they lie to you about Trump.. all to gain POLITICAL POWER. And you are guilty, if you prefer their lies to God's Truth.

The Mounce reference re ek is in Appendix page 328 of his book, Basics of Biblical Greek ISBN 0-310-23211-2, circle diagram to stress ek is OUTSIDE not inside. Title of page is 'Spatial Representation of Prepositions', in case in your edition of the book it isn't on the same page.