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Christ says He's God in John 8
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Author:  brainout [ 19 Aug 2015, 23:30 ]
Post subject:  Christ says He's God in John 8

There's a huge debate among Muslims, Jews, Christians as to WHERE in the Bible Christ is said to be God. It's not an easy question to answer, because the Bible is a literary work and uses clever rhetorical styles to say things. So you have to really think when you read, not just gloss over the text because you've heard it droned so many times from pulpits.

So this subforum is for that debate. To help get your thinking juices flowing, I posted a lot of videos showing how in John 8 alone, Christ says He's God over 50 times. I thought it was only 26 until someone in Youtube challenged me. The video series is in two places: click here for vimeo (quieter and easier to watch in context), or click here for Youtube (including many comments already made on the videos).

Then out of curiosity, I did a pan-OT search to prove the 'Son of Man' title He calls himself in the NT (click here), is ONLY a quote from Daniel 7:13, whose whole chapter is a unique OT assertion of Him being God-Man, coming at the End of Time (origin, probably, of the Greek idea of deus ex machina, since Daniel was made hostage in 607BC under Nebuchadnezzar, per his own meter in Daniel 9.)

But you don't have to use that material. Do your OWN thinking and your OWN reasoning, arguing, debating. For it really seems God's more interested in YOU developing YOUR thinking YOUR way, than in whether you get the right answer. It's not that being right is unimportant, but rather Freedom is the FIRST righteousness, the sine qua non of Righteousness. That's what I'm now concluding from everything I read in Bible. Hence this frankforum!

Have at it!

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