You know, it's like how asshole christians go on condemning gays without cause. Oh yeah... what a GREAT way to get people interested in the Bible (not). Homosexuality is not a "choice" and is determined in biological coding.
Well, homosexuality might be a biological proclivity, but the act requires will
; and only the act is condemned, be it in Noah (Genesis 9:21-22, even my Scofield KJV Bible separated it into a subparagraph) .. or anyone else.
Note well: NOAH DID IT, so clearly neither being gay nor committing sodomy causes you to lose or not get, salvation. Heh. God even records our sins to teach doctrines of grace.
Ergo, substitutionary payment. We are all doing it, every day. It's commonly called 'work for wages'. I work and get paid. That's a substitutionary
payment. I can fix my computer myself or hire you to fix it. So if the latter, and YOU fix it, then YOU make the substitutionary payment of your labor (me amal naphesho
, Isaiah 53:11, out from the labor of His Soul
) -- and afterwards, then YOU get paid for having done that. (Isaiah 53:12, laken! Ahalleq-LO b' rabbim!
Translated Absolutely! I will give to HIM, the people!
But how does a mere human, pay Holy God? WE are the damage. The damage cannot pay for the damage. That would only cause more
damage, Romans 4:4 (Greek, play on opheilema
=debt, idea that the more you work, the more you
end up in debt).
Milk gets spoiled. So how can spoiled milk pay for or do anything at all to go back in time to its pre-spoiled state? LOL!
Say you got hit in a car accident. So your arms are broken. Can you say to your arm, 'heal!' and it will? NO!
Can you say to the person whose bad driving broke your arm, 'HEAL MY ARM' and expect it to be healed? No!
When your computer glitches, can you yell at it, FIX THE PROBLEM? and will it respond? No.
When your clothing tears, can you say to the tear, 'pay me for the damage' and expect it to respond? No.
Christ HAS to be God-Man and Sinless, else the quality of His Thinking WHILE BEING IMPUTED WITH SINS, couldn't pay for them. But He is, and He did.
Isaiah 53:11 makes this clear: b'dato yatsdiq, tsadiq av'di l'rabbim
! Lit., By means of His Truth Knowledge He Make Righteous, the masses!
Notice that: HIS truth knowledge: not, anything we learn, think, do.
Isaiah 53:12 also makes this clear, though since neither
Ouky or Tim can read either Greek or Hebrew then maybe they can't understand it well (most Bible mistranslate the first clause): Christ paid, and Father rewards Him with us.
That WAS the contract, in Isaiah 53:10 (also clearer in Hebrew or Greek).
But, most folks can figure it out, even with the mistranslation errors. Ouky and Tim, however, cannot. Which means, they can't read Bible even in translation. I feel really bad for them, hupostasis. How does anyone recover from such reversal? We gotta pray for these people. They are missing so much.